Comments Thread For: Arum: I'll Explain Financial Implications Of Rematch To Lopez, Loma; Up To Them

[just the facts]

Has anyone suffered from this loss more than Revelated? Lol

No, could you imagine the size of the shyte burger he had to eat after creating all of those threads about how easily Loma was going to win and the idiot is still salty about it.

[buddyr]

No, could you imagine the size of the shyte burger he had to eat after creating all of those threads about how easily Loma was going to win and the idiot is still salty about it.

and now he, along with commentators, are making vids and threads about how Nomaschenko was robbed and won 7 or 8 rounds. He creates 6 or 7 threads per day crying. Lopez has destroyed this man's life

[kidbazooka]

Teo will tell Loma to shove it he’s on to bigger and better things.

Lopez is the star here Loma can keep on feeding on bums like has has for 13 fights out of his 16.

[Ake-Dawg]

"clean" <> force.

A jab to the body is considered a power shot because it wasn't a jab upstairs. Doesn't mean that it was any more or less "forceful" than a standard straight to the body at full extension.

You will not find a single RULE BOOK that quotes a "force" metric anywhere. Period.

You can duck the video I shared all you want, the fact is, neither guy was dominant in Round 12. It could have gone either way.

I don't care if people want to gift Lopez the round for general activity or # of punches (Which is a flawed metric). Point is he didn't "decisively" win that round.

And when you take away Round 12, that means 5 rounds to Loma.

Meaning a CLOSE fight.

You will also not find a rulebook that says judges must consider glancing punches on the grounds that the glove touched the other fighter. Ring generalship, effective aggression, CLEAN punching, and defense (the lowest factor). The force factor lies in the subjectivity of the judge i.e who got the worst of the round...the guy who got pitty patted or the guy who got caught with multiple solid shots.

That said, in the 12th Loma landed far less clean punches than Lopez. A clear win of the round.

[Ake-Dawg]

There wasn't dominance from Loma in those rounds, he just clearly won them. Vice versa in the first six rounds. It has nothing to do with my point though; López didn't dominate or "convincingly beat" Loma. He had a firefight with Loma in the twelfth and came out on top. And? Lol This whole narrative that López outclassed Loma, put on a masterclass performance, is the next Mayweather, top ten P4P, and will obliterate all opposition in years to come is just rétarded lol

I'll say again, López' W is credited to Loma's poor showing in the first half, not López' imaginary dominance throughout the fight.

To not give Lopez credit for Loma's poor showing in the first half is disrespectful. Either you think he was just lazy or dumb for fighting defensively or you acknowledge that he feared Lopez power and waited until he thought Lopez began to tire. There were times where Loma did try and get aggressive early and he got countered. Credit Lopez.

[Inspired]

"Defeated Lomachenko convincingly"...he didn't though, did he? Beating somebody convincingly is something like Mayweather vs. Canelo. López didn't win the first six rounds because he was convincingly beating Loma, he won the first six rounds because Loma did fúck all. Look what happened when Loma actually started fighting; he won five out of six rounds in the latter half. So of course López doesn't want a rematch, he knows the strategy would be different and he'd get spanked lol

lopez knew he was far ahead, so went easy in those rounds.
if loma 'engages' in the rematch, he opens himself upto a viscious counter..and loma has been dropped by lesser men.

[Squared.Circle]

To not give Lopez credit for Loma's poor showing in the first half is disrespectful. Either you think he was just lazy or dumb for fighting defensively or you acknowledge that he feared Lopez power and waited until he thought Lopez began to tire. There were times where Loma did try and get aggressive early and he got countered. Credit Lopez.

It's not disrespectful to tell such an obvious truth. And no, I don't think he was lazy, dumb, or feared López' power. If he feared López power, why did he elect to get in close when he started to engage? If these imaginary fearful counter punches stopped Loma being aggressive in the first half, why did he freely engage in the second half? If Loma feared the power and couldn't get passed the counters in the first half then he would have stayed gun shy throughout. I think what Loma said before the fight is what he tried to do; take López into the later rounds and punish him. I think the game plan was to let López gas himself out then punish him and force a stoppage. It just didn't work. That seems much more logical than "oh but Loma was scared of the power and counters, but only in the first half of the fight, he conquered his fears in the second half in which he mostly had it his own way and looked just as comfortable as he did in the first half" lol

In my eyes the only things López deserves credit for is staying calm and being in top shape. He did nothing in that fight to make me step back and say, "woah, he's special. He won that fight in convincing fashion."

[Squared.Circle]

lopez knew he was far ahead, so went easy in those rounds.
if loma 'engages' in the rematch, he opens himself upto a viscious counter..and loma has been dropped by lesser men.

López went easy in almost every round lol yea, he was the "aggressor" in the first half, as in, he was the one going forward and throwing punches. But he wasn't aggressive, except in maybe two rounds in the entire fight. Where were these "vicious counters" in the second half of the fight when Loma freely engaged? The counters I was seeing in the slow motion replays were hitting gloves and fresh air.

When Loma didn't do anything, López had it his own way. When Loma did something, Loma had it his own way. When Loma threw caution to the wind and engaged in a fire fight in the twelfth, López arguably just came out on top (I think he did, but others disagree). That should tell you all you need to know about how a rematch would go lol

[Ake-Dawg]

It's not disrespectful to tell such an obvious truth. And no, I don't think he was lazy, dumb, or feared López' power. If he feared López power, why did he elect to get in close when he started to engage? If these imaginary fearful counter punches stopped Loma being aggressive in the first half, why did he freely engage in the second half? If Loma feared the power and couldn't get passed the counters in the first half then he would have stayed gun shy throughout. I think what Loma said before the fight is what he tried to do; take López into the later rounds and punish him. I think the game plan was to let López gas himself out then punish him and force a stoppage. It just didn't work. That seems much more logical than "oh but Loma was scared of the power and counters, but only in the first half of the fight, he conquered his fears in the second half in which he mostly had it his own way and looked just as comfortable as he did in the first half" lol

In my eyes the only things López deserves credit for is staying calm and being in top shape. He did nothing in that fight to make me step back and say, "woah, he's special. He won that fight in convincing fashion."

So you're doing everything but explaining why you think Loma didnt throw many punches in rounds 1-6. Further, its a proven fact that fighters lose steam on their punches in the later rounds.

Why did the special guy not look special versus the regular guy?

[Inspired]

López went easy in almost every round lol yea, he was the "aggressor" in the first half, as in, he was the one going forward and throwing punches. But he wasn't aggressive, except in maybe two rounds in the entire fight. Where were these "vicious counters" in the second half of the fight when Loma freely engaged? The counters I was seeing in the slow motion replays were hitting gloves and fresh air.

When Loma didn't do anything, López had it his own way. When Loma did something, Loma had it his own way. When Loma threw caution to the wind and engaged in a fire fight in the twelfth, López arguably just came out on top (I think he did, but others disagree). That should tell you all you need to know about how a rematch would go lol

like i said, lopez had already won the fight by that point. He didn't need any 'viscious counters'. He was comfortably in front.