What did Povetkin lack to make him champion?

[MoneyKasha]

would I be wrong to say that a prime povetkin vs. Joshua is a 50-50 fight?

[Mammoth]

why is Pov still fighting though...shouldn't he retire?

After stopping Whyte?

Makes no sense....

[MoneyKasha]

After stopping Whyte?

Makes no sense....

yeah i know, Mammoth, but say Pov wins again

does he fight Fury? i mean does he really have a chance against Fury....

or should he fight maybe Ortiz as a final fight then ride off

[Mammoth]

yeah i know, Mammoth, but say Pov wins again

does he fight Fury? i mean does he really have a chance against Fury....

or should he fight maybe Ortiz as a final fight then ride off

He doesn't have a shot against Fury, especially at this stage. The idea that he'd pass up one last title shot and take less money to fight Ortiz just to make some internet nerds happy just ain't realistic, my man...

[MoneyKasha]

He doesn't have a shot against Fury, especially at this stage. The idea that he'd pass up one last title shot and take less money to fight Ortiz just to make some internet nerds happy just ain't realistic, my man...

that's true Mammoth.....might as well ride out with one last shot..

Mammoth I always respected your boxing knowledge, sorry. I know i make alot of dumb threads, Im too emotional I'm sorry about that. I don't hate Wilder, i just wish he would tell us what his plan is then all this hiding stuff...

anyways blesses to you

[Mammoth]

that's true Mammoth.....might as well ride out with one last shot..

Mammoth I always respected your boxing knowledge, sorry. I know i make alot of dumb threads, Im too emotional I'm sorry about that. I don't hate Wilder, i just wish he would tell us what his plan is then all this hiding stuff...

anyways blesses to you

I figured you're a Fury fan, idk why. If you are and that's what all this is about the best thing you could do is stop making all the weird posts about Wilder. I'm not kidding when I say we all knew he wasn't good, he just had insane power. Really, if anything you want to big up Deontay. Floyd fans can point to Manny and say "look, he beat Thurman at 40 years old" or point to Canelo and say "look, he beat Lara, Golovkin, picked up a title at 175." Makes no sense to basically say "my guy beat so and so and that guy sucks ****."

[JakeTheBoxer]

Juicing

He had a chance to take a belt from Wilder. But he blew it.

[deathofaclown]

Being around in Wlad’s reign

Then he had a great run of form a few years ago and then failed a test

Now he’s older and not going to be big or good enough to compete with the current champs.

Size too

[boliodogs]

He wasn't good enough to beat the champions he fought. He was too slow and too easy to hit and his chin was just average at the championship level.

[saintpat]

The answer on all accounts is PEDs:

Didn’t take enough of them before the Wlad fight.

Took too many (and too carelessly) after when he could have gotten himself another shot.

He’s a victim of his own cheating.