Loma/Lopez: Rewatched Round 12. My perception of Teofimo has changed.

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  • Tony Trick-Pony
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    #11
    Originally posted by revelated
    My new dream fight: Teofimo Lopez vs. Chino Maidana at a catchweight.

    The fight was so fast I missed a lot of this the first time around, but damn. Lopez is a dirty MF'er.

    - Strong arm/elbow
    - Palm strike
    - Heisman straightarm
    - Elbow to keep range
    - Shoulder blocks
    - Shoulder tackles
    - Ducking beneath the belt line
    - Hitting off the break
    - Throwing elbow like a punch (shades of Otto 'All In' Wallin)
    - Elbow to the side of the head in the trench

    If Kenny Bayless were reffing this fight, Teo would have had a lot of points deducted.

    Bonus moment is Teo uppercutting himself (shades of Tyson Fury) around the 6:30-ish mark.





    BUT...this video showcases that this round was a straight up chess match. Both guys had good moments and bad. At no point (and you can see for yourself) was either guy in any danger of getting stopped or knocked out.

    Loma did NOT get dominated for people who properly count jabs, because Lopez was getting as good as he was giving - Loma even nails a BEAUTIFUL uppercut and a sweet leaping left hand midway through, plus blocks a right uppercut with his left glove (usually it's the right glove to deflect or catch), and like I said, Lopez had good body work for about 20 seconds of the round.

    Meanwhile, Lomachenko was the constant aggressor, which was the right strategy, and really what he should have been doing from Round 2 onward. Because Lopez didn't look tired in Round 12, so assume he wasn't, it meant that Loma could have walked the bigger guy down.

    Regardless, Round 12 was NOT decisive for Lopez.

    Don't come at me with your opinion. WATCH the video. Pause at punches. DON'T ignore the jab - from either guy. Jab Lives Matter.

    This is probably my favorite round in all of modern boxing.

    It's not rock-em-sock-em robots like Bradley/Provodnikov.
    It's not sloppy defense like Ortiz/Berto.
    It's not one-sided spanking like Mayweather/Pacquiao 1.
    It's not random jobber street fighting like KSI/Paul 2.

    This Round 12 is what I love most about the sport - a 50/50 fight with SKILL on display from both guys.

    (And yes, I still say Loma did enough to pull it out because Lopez missed more than he connected).
    Great break down!

    Yeah, after watching that twelfth round and hearing the lopsided commentary, I knew things weren't good. This whole thing has been a case of people shouting about how Lopez won and how awful Loma is but nothing about this fight indicates either. This is a hollow victory...

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    • Squ□redCircle34
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      #12
      Loma never got credit for his more quality and dominant rounds!

      Teo’s rounds was won by doing enough and Loma’s was won by landing flush combinations that snapped Teo’s head back!

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      • BaguMka
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        #13
        I'm saying it again Loma won rounds 2, 7-12 and I have him winning the fight. Scorecards were rigged. Whoever says the scorecards were right is Lomas hater or troll

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        • kidbazooka
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          #14
          Originally posted by revelated
          My new dream fight: Teofimo Lopez vs. Chino Maidana at a catchweight.

          The fight was so fast I missed a lot of this the first time around, but damn. Lopez is a dirty MF'er.

          - Strong arm/elbow
          - Palm strike
          - Heisman straightarm
          - Elbow to keep range
          - Shoulder blocks
          - Shoulder tackles
          - Ducking beneath the belt line
          - Hitting off the break
          - Throwing elbow like a punch (shades of Otto 'All In' Wallin)
          - Elbow to the side of the head in the trench

          If Kenny Bayless were reffing this fight, Teo would have had a lot of points deducted.

          Bonus moment is Teo uppercutting himself (shades of Tyson Fury) around the 6:30-ish mark.





          BUT...this video showcases that this round was a straight up chess match. Both guys had good moments and bad. At no point (and you can see for yourself) was either guy in any danger of getting stopped or knocked out.

          Loma did NOT get dominated for people who properly count jabs, because Lopez was getting as good as he was giving - Loma even nails a BEAUTIFUL uppercut and a sweet leaping left hand midway through, plus blocks a right uppercut with his left glove (usually it's the right glove to deflect or catch), and like I said, Lopez had good body work for about 20 seconds of the round.

          Meanwhile, Lomachenko was the constant aggressor, which was the right strategy, and really what he should have been doing from Round 2 onward. Because Lopez didn't look tired in Round 12, so assume he wasn't, it meant that Loma could have walked the bigger guy down.

          Regardless, Round 12 was NOT decisive for Lopez.

          Don't come at me with your opinion. WATCH the video. Pause at punches. DON'T ignore the jab - from either guy. Jab Lives Matter.

          This is probably my favorite round in all of modern boxing.

          It's not rock-em-sock-em robots like Bradley/Provodnikov.
          It's not sloppy defense like Ortiz/Berto.
          It's not one-sided spanking like Mayweather/Pacquiao 1.
          It's not random jobber street fighting like KSI/Paul 2.

          This Round 12 is what I love most about the sport - a 50/50 fight with SKILL on display from both guys.

          (And yes, I still say Loma did enough to pull it out because Lopez missed more than he connected).
          Denial is a SOB!!!!

          But how do you feel about Lomas hitting on the clinch while hold one arm and using his head for butts???

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          • shenmue
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            #15
            Can't tell if you trolling to be funny or just in complete denial because one of your favs lost a fight he was heavily favored to win.

            Gave me a laugh though so it's all good.

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            • Combat Talk Radio
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              #16
              Originally posted by kidbazooka
              Denial is a SOB!!!!

              But how do you feel about Lomas hitting on the clinch while hold one arm and using his head for butts???
              After Lopez's football strategy? I'm fine with it

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                #17
                Originally posted by shenmue
                Can't tell if you trolling to be funny or just in complete denial because one of your favs lost a fight he was heavily favored to win.

                Gave me a laugh though so it's all good.
                Just admit you didn't watch the video.

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                • BaguMka
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                  #18
                  Originally posted by revelated
                  Just admit you didn't watch the video.
                  Don't bother to argue with jackals they are over the moon that Loma lost the fight they really don't care about Lopez

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                  • Combat Talk Radio
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                    #19
                    Originally posted by BaguMka
                    Don't bother to argue with jackals they are over the moon that Loma lost the fight they really don't care about Lopez
                    It's just sad, you know.

                    To have SO much hatred for a guy that even with a video clearly showing that Lopez was a dirty fighter the likes of which haven't been seen since Mayweather/Maidana 1, Loma was actually quite competitive the whole round and Lopez (like I said) was whiffing punches, people avoid it. They just don't want to face the truth.

                    Because the fact is, if you take away Round 12, you're basically admitting that Loma won at least 5 rounds straight up. But if you gave Loma Round 7 which was a swing round, you end up a draw.

                    Just like reputable people have been saying.

                    But in order to maintain the mystique, NSB has to avoid seeing a video that exposes the truth of the matter.
                    Last edited by Combat Talk Radio; 10-21-2020, 11:17 AM.

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                    • 4truth
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                      #20
                      I gave the round to Lopez but I thought it was a close round. What I certainly didn't see is what punch-stat saw. Lopez did not land 50 scoring punches with a better than 50% connect rate.

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