Loma/Lopez: Rewatched Round 12. My perception of Teofimo has changed.

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  • Combat Talk Radio
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    #21
    Originally posted by 4truth
    I gave the round to Lopez but I thought it was a close round. What I certainly didn't see is what punch-stat saw. Lopez did not land 50 scoring punches with a better than 50% connect rate.
    Both guys were throwing FAST as hell. Compubox is two guys manually counting punches. They were so fast I had to go to 1/4 speed; half speed was still too fast.

    At that speed, it doesn't surprise me that one of them just counted blocked punches.

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    • satiev1
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      #22
      Originally posted by revelated
      My new dream fight: Teofimo Lopez vs. Chino Maidana at a catchweight.

      The fight was so fast I missed a lot of this the first time around, but damn. Lopez is a dirty MF'er.

      - Strong arm/elbow
      - Palm strike
      - Heisman straightarm
      - Elbow to keep range
      - Shoulder blocks
      - Shoulder tackles
      - Ducking beneath the belt line
      - Hitting off the break
      - Throwing elbow like a punch (shades of Otto 'All In' Wallin)
      - Elbow to the side of the head in the trench

      If Kenny Bayless were reffing this fight, Teo would have had a lot of points deducted.

      Bonus moment is Teo uppercutting himself (shades of Tyson Fury) around the 6:30-ish mark.





      BUT...this video showcases that this round was a straight up chess match. Both guys had good moments and bad. At no point (and you can see for yourself) was either guy in any danger of getting stopped or knocked out.

      Loma did NOT get dominated for people who properly count jabs, because Lopez was getting as good as he was giving - Loma even nails a BEAUTIFUL uppercut and a sweet leaping left hand midway through, plus blocks a right uppercut with his left glove (usually it's the right glove to deflect or catch), and like I said, Lopez had good body work for about 20 seconds of the round.

      Meanwhile, Lomachenko was the constant aggressor, which was the right strategy, and really what he should have been doing from Round 2 onward. Because Lopez didn't look tired in Round 12, so assume he wasn't, it meant that Loma could have walked the bigger guy down.

      Regardless, Round 12 was NOT decisive for Lopez.

      Don't come at me with your opinion. WATCH the video. Pause at punches. DON'T ignore the jab - from either guy. Jab Lives Matter.

      This is probably my favorite round in all of modern boxing.

      It's not rock-em-sock-em robots like Bradley/Provodnikov.
      It's not sloppy defense like Ortiz/Berto.
      It's not one-sided spanking like Mayweather/Pacquiao 1.
      It's not random jobber street fighting like KSI/Paul 2.

      This Round 12 is what I love most about the sport - a 50/50 fight with SKILL on display from both guys.

      (And yes, I still say Loma did enough to pull it out because Lopez missed more than he connected).
      BEEN saying this from the start after the fight. People are counting puches for teo that he's throwing and not landing clean. They are hitting gloves and elbows. You can't even find a highlight reel of teo landing clean power shots.

      Boxing nowadays counts throws that are blocked as landed punches.

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        #23
        How many cope threads do you need

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          #24
          Originally posted by satiev1
          BEEN saying this from the start after the fight. People are counting puches for teo that he's throwing and not landing clean. They are hitting gloves and elbows. You can't even find a highlight reel of teo landing clean power shots.

          Boxing nowadays counts throws that are blocked as landed punches.
          Glancing punches count a lot more than punches not thrown.

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            #25
            Originally posted by Scopedog
            How many cope threads do you need
            Just admit you didn't watch the video.

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            • alexnation
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              #26
              Props to Lopez for doing what he was supposed to do. No props to Loma for choosing to give first 6 rounds away (but we all know Lopez is a puncher and Loma didn't want to test it). However, by the end of the match Lopez, except round 12, when Loma went into straight exchanges, seemed completely lost as to what to do. He was missing everything and getting clipped from in every exchange.

              I expected more from the fight but oh well, Loma should go back down in weight. No need to push it when you have to be too careful for the whole fight.

              On a side note, does anyone else think that eye cut may affect Teo's career? It's a nasty one and in a nasty spot. That area is too very thing and opens up easily after cut once. I think it may

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                #27
                Originally posted by alexnation
                Props to Lopez for doing what he was supposed to do. No props to Loma for choosing to give first 6 rounds away (but we all know Lopez is a puncher and Loma didn't want to test it). However, by the end of the match Lopez, except round 12, when Loma went into straight exchanges, seemed completely lost as to what to do. He was missing everything and getting clipped from in every exchange.

                I expected more from the fight but oh well, Loma should go back down in weight. No need to push it when you have to be too careful for the whole fight.

                On a side note, does anyone else think that eye cut may affect Teo's career? It's a nasty one and in a nasty spot. That area is too very thing and opens up easily after cut once. I think it may
                Imagine him facing Shawn Porter.

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                  #28
                  This thread is the bargaining stage of grief for Loma fans. So sad.

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                    #29
                    Originally posted by Johnny2x2x
                    This thread is the bargaining stage of grief for Loma fans. So sad.
                    Just admit you didn't watch the video.

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                      #30
                      Originally posted by Johnny2x2x
                      This thread is the bargaining stage of grief for Loma fans. So sad.
                      Just admit you didn't watch the video.

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