Lomachenko/Lopez: a repeat of De La Hoya/Whitaker

[LoadedWraps]

And Pernell wasn't? He was 40-1.



Pernell didn't really lose.

Which is why I called out official scorecards (all three of which were a joke, because there's no situation in which De La Hoya won that fight).



I'm not comparing fighters, I'm comparing the situation, with close focus on wide, unrealistic scorecards that favor the young up-and-comer.



If it was "close and debated" then why did all three judges have Oscar winning (basically) 8 rounds?

Of course Sweet Pea was, never disagreed.


My point was Lopez and Lomachenko combined aren't half the stars ODLH was. Only Floyd, Manny, and now Fury can come close to ODLH popularity. Which is why this is again a poor comparison.

Glad you admit you're not comparing the fighters because Lopez can't walk a step in ODLH boots.

[Mammoth]

And Pernell wasn't? He was 40-1.



Pernell didn't really lose.

Which is why I called out official scorecards (all three of which were a joke, because there's no situation in which De La Hoya won that fight).



I'm not comparing fighters, I'm comparing the situation, with close focus on wide, unrealistic scorecards that favor the young up-and-comer.



If it was "close and debated" then why did all three judges have Oscar winning (basically) 8 rounds?

Why did judges have Sweet Pea even with Chavez?

[Combat Talk Radio]

The only robbing that happened in this Lopez-Loma fight is the delusional Loma fanbase like yourself robbing Lopez of his credit for schooling and ass whooping he gave Lomachenko.

ok, so you agree with Julie Lederman. Good to know

[Combat Talk Radio]

Why did judges have Sweet Pea even with Chavez?

Because Don King. That's a joker in the deck.

Anytime Don King was involved, you simply can't measure it.

[GrandpaBernard]

I appreciate how level headed you approach the outcome.

And your last part is key. Did his team expect to be given the benefit of the doubt? I find that strategy strange - how many times has Lara done the bare basic minimum only to go to a draw or a close loss and then scream robbery?

Again, my ONLY issue is with how wide the cards were. It's got people talking crazy around here. That was a draw or a 7-5 fight, period. And Loma shouldn't have allowed even that.

You’d think Floyd dominating Alvarez with a 12-0 shutout and still having a draw card would be the cold slap of reality in the face for these older fighters

If bs judging can happen to the best cash cow of all time, anyone can get it

Older guy should only feel comfortable if he clearly winning 8 rounds or more

[PinkGod]

There's an argument for Pernell winning his fight with Oscar, Loma just got beat, outclassed & outboxed by Lopez. Just accept it.

[QballLobo]

Sweat Pea didn’t coast the first 6 rounds barely throwing anything.
Oscar was already a big crossover star due to the 92 Olympics and his mainstream appeal to the Mexican American fan base.
Lopez is and still is largely unknown.

[Combat Talk Radio]

Of course Sweet Pea was, never disagreed.


My point was Lopez and Lomachenko combined aren't half the stars ODLH was. Only Floyd, Manny, and now Fury can come close to ODLH popularity. Which is why this is again a poor comparison.

Glad you admit you're not comparing the fighters because Lopez can't walk a step in ODLH boots.

See, this is the problem with getting triggered. You have to calm down and read what I'm writing.

I am comparing two situations where a young up-and-comer is given unrealistic scorecards that can only be explained by a forced passing of the torch.

Remember the one card for Pacquiao/Horn?

Williams/Lara?

Algieri/Provodnikov?

Canelo/G 1?

Porter/Garcia (the one judge that tried to gift it to Swift)?

FFS we just saw it with Ritson vs. Vasquez. Judge wasn't even looking at the fight and likely pre-filled it out.

[Combat Talk Radio]

You’d think Floyd dominating Alvarez with a 12-0 shutout and still having a draw card would be the cold slap of reality in the face for these older fighters

If bs judging can happen to the best cash cow of all time, anyone can get it

Older guy should only feel comfortable if he clearly winning 8 rounds or more

Judges: The REAL "Can Men".

There's an argument for Pernell winning his fight with Oscar,

F no there isn't. NOBODY believes any situation where De La Hoya won that crap. That fight was not Leonard/Hagler.

Sweat Pea didn’t coast the first 6 rounds

You're missing the analogy. The point is, the scorecards were too wide there even if you somehow had Oscar winning; he didn't win 8 rounds.

Scorecards were too wide here, Lopez did NOT win more than 8 rounds.

Bernard was spot on with his prediction - a forced passing of the torch.

[LoadedWraps]

See, this is the problem with getting triggered. You have to calm down and read what I'm writing.

I am comparing two situations where a young up-and-comer is given unrealistic scorecards that can only be explained by a forced passing of the torch.

Remember the one card for Pacquiao/Horn?

Williams/Lara?

Algieri/Provodnikov?

Canelo/G 1?

Porter/Garcia (the one judge that tried to gift it to Swift)?

FFS we just saw it with Ritson vs. Vasquez. Judge wasn't even looking at the fight and likely pre-filled it out.

I'm not emotional at all lol.

I just wanted to address the point that Lopez can't walk a day in Oscar's shoes. Because he can't. Don't care about your other points, wasn't arguing them. Since you didn't disagree, I'm cool.