Lomachenko/Lopez: a repeat of De La Hoya/Whitaker

[Combat Talk Radio]

A 23-year old undefeated talent in Teofimo Lopez.

A 24-year old undefeated talent in Oscar de la Hoya.

A 32-year old top fighter, with a dubious loss, in Vasiliy Lomachenko.

A 33-year old top fighter, with a dubious loss, in Pernell Whitaker.

Pernell was considered the best pound-for-pound fighter in the sport, as was Lomachenko.

Oscar was determined to take Whitaker's mythical crown, just like Lopez was determined to take Loma's mythical crown.


Official scorecards are obscenely wide for De La Hoya.
Official scorecards are obscenely wide for Lopez.

Oscar was 24 years old, rising fast, the most exciting young fighter the sport had seen in a long time, and was making a ton of waves. He was becoming a huge attraction even by 1997. He had the attitude, the looks, the Olympic pedigree, the great story, and he was a really good fighter.

Sound like anyone you know?

[GrandpaBernard]

Good call

I think Teo is the real deal and will end up being a great fighter

[youbeight]

Nah. Loma thought he was gonna turn things up and realize Teo was faster than a lot of guys he previously fought. And didn’t have a weak chin. Can’t wait till round 7 to get started. Shoulda put a rematch clause in there.

Sweet Pea was busting the hell outta DLH all night long. He landed more punches on him than anyone else did and that remained the same till DLH fought Mosley.

[Combat Talk Radio]

Good call

I think Teo is the real deal and will end up being a great fighter

Let's hope so. But to the point you made - and one that hadn't 'clicked' to me until now - clearly the promoters needed a passing of the torch in the interest of the business.

[LoadedWraps]

Not similar at all, and stop obsessing with age, it had nothing to do with either result.

Oscar was also a legit star, Lopez and Lomachenko combined don't have his draw power and never will.

Sweet Pea also didn't lose because he coasted 5 rounds.

As one of ODLH biggest fans, the fact you are even comparing Lopez to him is offensive.

[Mammoth]

Bad call.

Oscar vs Pernell was a close and debated fight. Teofimo won clearly.

[GrandpaBernard]

Let's hope so. But to the point you made - and one that hadn't 'clicked' to me until now - clearly the promoters needed a passing of the torch in the interest of the business.

yeah idk what Loma was thinking in there being so patient

Surely he knows how boxing works. They rather give it to the young rising star

Loma is old for his weight class and isn’t a cash cow. He fought like he expected the benefit of the doubt

[Combat Talk Radio]

Oscar was also a legit star

And Pernell wasn't? He was 40-1.

Sweet Pea also didn't lose because he coasted 5 rounds.

Pernell didn't really lose.

Which is why I called out official scorecards (all three of which were a joke, because there's no situation in which De La Hoya won that fight).

As one of ODLH biggest fans, the fact you are even comparing Lopez to him is offensive.

I'm not comparing fighters, I'm comparing the situation, with close focus on wide, unrealistic scorecards that favor the young up-and-comer.

Bad call.

Oscar vs Pernell was a close and debated fight. Teofimo won clearly.

If it was "close and debated" then why did all three judges have Oscar winning (basically) 8 rounds?

[lolpz]

Pernell was robbed,

The only robbing that happened in this Lopez-Loma fight is the delusional Loma fanbase like yourself robbing Lopez of his credit for schooling and ass whooping he gave Lomachenko.

8-4 9-3 easy to score fight, not even debatable. 7-5 if you are a charitable estrogen driven sympathetic individual who doesn't want to see Lomachenko go out like this.

[Combat Talk Radio]

yeah idk what Loma was thinking in there being so patient

Surely he knows how boxing works. They rather give it to the young rising star

Loma is old for his weight class and isn’t a cash cow. He fought like he expected the benefit of the doubt

I appreciate how level headed you approach the outcome.

And your last part is key. Did his team expect to be given the benefit of the doubt? I find that strategy strange - how many times has Lara done the bare basic minimum only to go to a draw or a close loss and then scream robbery?

Again, my ONLY issue is with how wide the cards were. It's got people talking crazy around here. That was a draw or a 7-5 fight, period. And Loma shouldn't have allowed even that.