Rounds for Lopez, rounds for Loma, and rounds that can be contested.

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  • Boxing-1013
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    #21
    Originally posted by Mammoth
    Might as well start giving guys rounds for shoe shing the last ten seconds if we're going to award Loma round 2 for the little he did throw.
    The crazy thing is how little Loma and Lopez really landed in those first 6 rounds lol. Loma literally landed like 1 or 2 punches in a lot of those rounds. Lopez didn't really land much more but when you land maybe 1 punch and the other guy lands 3 or 4 and throws a lot more that hit arms/gloves, I mean it's a clear round.

    Round 2 was tight if you're just watching it in isolation and scoring what lands clean. Doesn't really matter but it was a close round

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    • KillaMane26
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      #22
      Originally posted by Vlad_
      I had Lopez winning rounds 1, 3, 4, 5, 6 and 12

      I had Loma winning 8, 9, 10 and 11

      Round 2 and 7 could go either way.

      Round 2 Lopez was more active in throwing and missing, but Loma landed the significant combo in that round.

      Round 7 is when Loma landed less, but that was the pivot round where things changed.

      Lopez won the first half just because he was more active and throwing more. He was throwing about 40-50 per round but only landing 7 or 8 punches. Loma was throwing about 10 punches but landing 5-6 of them. So really Lopez won due to activity but not at all due to any damage or anything significant, because he was landing 2-3 punches more per round, but throwing 30-40 more punches. He was hitting air.

      However rounds 8, 9, 10, 11 were won in a very dominant fashion by Loma. Had Loma started this pace in round 3 instead of round 7, and maintained it throughout, the fight would have been very different and might have not even made it to the final bell.

      Loma went for broke in the 12th and became careless and ate some solid shots. Teofimo had gas left in the tabk and he had a very good final round and won it dominantly.

      All in all, the rounds Loma lost were due to his own inactivity and hesitation.

      Lopez did not dominate Loma at all, in fact when Loma actually woke up and started fighting in the 2nd half, he was winning much more convincingly than Lopez was in the first half.

      A rematch is definitely warranted. Those are my thoughts.

      Share yours.
      This is perfect

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      • BLASTER1
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        #23
        Originally posted by revelated
        The ONLY round I disagree with on is Round 12. I did not see this dominant 12 that everyone else saw.

        Every other round - I fully agree with you.
        I thought the same but now that ive rewatched the fight the only clean rounds i can give to Loma were 10,11.
        I saw maybe what you saw in the 12th i scored it for Loma, he just got in bigger shots and alot of Teos were missing.
        Alot of swing rounds due to Loma not putting out much Offence but Teo won clean imo.
        Loma should still campaign at 135 if he wants to build his legacy and Teo should drop his belts and try get the Taylor/RAMIREZ winner.
        Teo can be a problem at 140.

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        • Mike_b
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          #24
          I'm not gonna rewatch the fight but I do agree the right man won the fight. I had it 115-115 a draw, but it means nothing ain't official lol. I had Teo winning 1, 5, 6,, 7 (that's four rounds banked before Loma picked it up) I had Loma winning 2, 4, and round three was an even round. So Loma won 2 rounds in the early going. The next phase I gave Loma 8, 10, 11, but gave Teo the 9th round. The only other even round I gave was the 12th. Oh well, were all blinded by our own biasiss. The reason I scored round 12 even is because what I saw was Teo closing the show and letting it all go but lil matrix just pressed him like he was making up for lost ground. So essentially 5 rounds a piece, 2 even rounds.

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            #25
            Originally posted by Robbie Barrett
            Now some are trying to give Loma round 12?
            It's so ridiculous. That's when you know you can't take them seriously. Anybody that gave Lomachenko the 12th has no credibility on this topic. I don't care who it is.

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              #26
              Originally posted by Vlad_
              I had Lopez winning rounds 1, 3, 4, 5, 6 and 12

              I had Loma winning 8, 9, 10 and 11

              Round 2 and 7 could go either way.

              Round 2 Lopez was more active in throwing and missing, but Loma landed the significant combo in that round.

              Round 7 is when Loma landed less, but that was the pivot round where things changed.

              Lopez won the first half just because he was more active and throwing more. He was throwing about 40-50 per round but only landing 7 or 8 punches. Loma was throwing about 10 punches but landing 5-6 of them. So really Lopez won due to activity but not at all due to any damage or anything significant, because he was landing 2-3 punches more per round, but throwing 30-40 more punches. He was hitting air.

              However rounds 8, 9, 10, 11 were won in a very dominant fashion by Loma. Had Loma started this pace in round 3 instead of round 7, and maintained it throughout, the fight would have been very different and might have not even made it to the final bell.

              Loma went for broke in the 12th and became careless and ate some solid shots. Teofimo had gas left in the tabk and he had a very good final round and won it dominantly.

              All in all, the rounds Loma lost were due to his own inactivity and hesitation.

              Lopez did not dominate Loma at all, in fact when Loma actually woke up and started fighting in the 2nd half, he was winning much more convincingly than Lopez was in the first half.

              A rematch is definitely warranted. Those are my thoughts.

              Share yours.
              I actually gave Lomachenko the second round. But he didn't even come close to winning the 7th from what I saw. That was a clear round for Lopez

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              • Johnny2x2x
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                #27
                Lopez won the first 7 rounds clearly to me. Round 8 was close, but Lopez won that too.

                12 was a blowout round, not close. Might have even been a 10-8 round if not for the ref stopping the onslaught.

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                • BodyBagz
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                  #28
                  Teo -
                  1,3-7
                  Loma -
                  8-11

                  2 and 12, iMhO, could have gone either way.

                  Teo did not beat up or dominate the early rds he won. He won them because Loma literally did nothing. Had no choice but to score them for Teo.

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                    #29
                    Originally posted by BodyBagz
                    Teo -
                    1,3-7
                    Loma -
                    8-11

                    2 and 12, iMhO, could have gone either way.

                    Teo did not beat up or dominate the early rds he won. He won them because Loma literally did nothing. Had no choice but to score them for Teo.
                    This is the correct answer.

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                    • Marchegiano
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                      #30
                      Originally posted by SplitSecond
                      He did though. He actually beat him up in his rounds.
                      Got out punched in power punches every single round, but, he beat someone up did he?

                      At best you felt he won rounds off his jab. He didn't beat **** but his shoes.

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