What most of you and judges are watching

[BaguMka]

I clearly saw Loma winning the fight. It is disgusting that they gave it to Lopez but what can you expect in Las Vegas against american fighter..
The same thing happened to Kova against Ward and GGG against canelo.

Even unofficial score cards from Ward was much better..just disgusting.

I strongly recommend everyone to watch every round in slow motion you will be surprised that Lopez didn't to ****

[BodyBagz]

Enough with these troll threads !

[Boxing Logic]

Enough with these troll threads !

You're the one in so many threads posting dismissive one line responses. If anyone's a troll...

But let me settle the debate, although, all this is just my opinion. But here it is. Neither Loma or Lopez won, because to win a fight, there actually has to be a real fight. And to me, this looked fake same as Canelo vs Kovalev and a lot of matchups lately. Klitschko vs Fury, Wilder vs Mailk Scott, Fury vs Wilder where Fury got up right at the count of 10 like a Rocky movie, AJ vs Ruiz both fights... I mean, if that's true, then that's 3 of the biggest stars in the sport right there at heavyweight, plus the biggest name in the sport Canelo.

So, why would it be any different for Loma vs Lopez? Especially when Lopez already had one fight, vs Mason Menard, where the KO looked totally fake to me, with bad acting when Menard froze and fell face first. Very theatrical. IMO the punch barely grazed him, just the padding.

IMO, I think the fight looked suspect, and that it may have gone completely to script. To me it looked like they tried to script the fight like Loma was trying his normal 3-4 favorite moves, but that Teofimo was prepared for counters to those moves, so there was nothing Loma could do. And that's how almost the entire fight played out. Except, that's completely ridiculous because Loma has shown hundreds of moves in his fights, not just his 3-4 favorite, and he also knows many many counters to the counters to his moves.

So IMO the fight looked scripted like 1 level deep, and that's what seemed so fake about it. A real fight, it's not 1 level deep, it's 100 levels deep. You try your favorite move, the other has a counter for it, then you don't just try spamming that move over and over. Loma would try to jab then cut the distance, and Lopez would veer his shoulder back or throw a counter to counter it. And this was supposed to explain to the viewer why Loma lost. But IMO, if it were real, Loma would have veered his shoulder back too. He would have adjusted the angle on his moves to reflect what Lopez was doing. He wouldn't just keep spamming it the same way like a video game character with only 1 animation per move.

Loma likes to jab, then duck in closer, but when he tried that vs Lopez, Lopez would throw a short hook to the spot that Loma likes to duck into. That's just normal film study and preparation for a fight. It might surprise Lomachenko the first 2 times he did it. But then, IMO, in a real fight, Loma would duck twice in the move, instead of just once. He would jab, feint the duck in like he normally does to draw the hook from Lopez, and then counter Lopez's counter. And then this back and forth, move-counter-move, can evolve to the 10th degree, to the 100th degree, throughout a real fight.

But in this fight, all we really saw, over and over again, was Loma's normal first moves, and then Lopez having a smart counter for it prepared. And then they would just replay these types of back and forth over and over, like a bad script, instead of Loma experiencing Lopez's counters and then countering them himself. All he ever kept doing was one move at a time. One move by Loma, then Lopez countered. He wasn't doing one move and then immediately a second and then immediately a third. He wasn't drawing out Lopez's moves and then countering those. It was a very basic, boring, fake looking fight to me.

By the late rounds I didn't even care who won, even though Loma was coming back, because it was so boring and uneventful. We waited like 15 months for this fight, I was hoping for a great fight for more anything. But not only was there limited action, there was limited IQ. It was a very shallow show. Like, some movies are written with great depth and subtext, and some are just written really shallow and ******. This was shallow and ******. It was like a movie with two great actors, but they were totally wasted because whoever wrote the movie made such an incompetent, basic, shallow script. The cause and effect in the story to me didn't make any sense. The characters behaved completely illogically throughout the entire story, so to speak. It would be like if the character Lomachenko is supposed to be like an expert scientist, like Tony Stark or something, but in the movie someone asks him, "What is 5+5?" and he says he thinks it is 12. It wouldn't make any sense that an expert scientist can't do basic math.

That's what Lomachenko vs Lopez looked like to me, and that's why I think it was fake, just like if someone tells you they are an expert scientist, but they don't know that 5+5=10, then they're probably lying about being an expert scientist. But it's just my opinion that the fight was fake, nothing more.

[Madison Boxing]

Lopez was hitting arms and gloves all night

[dan_cov]

Lopez was hitting arms and gloves all night

Loma was hitting nothing because he was too scared to let his hands go.

[YGriffith]

This wasnt really even a close fight, it only had 4 close rounds with the rest being complete washouts for lopez, only close rounds are 8 9 10 11, 1 to 7 and 12 are clear rounds for lopez, so lopez has 8 rounds, the 8 was leaning more to lopez too but whatever,just because they are close rounds doesnt mean the more popular fighter should get them,and keep in mind Lopez outscored him in power punches in all rounds sooooo....yeah lopez 9-3 at worst.

[BodyBagz]

You're the one in so many threads posting dismissive one line responses. If anyone's a troll...

But let me settle the debate, although, all this is just my opinion. But here it is. Neither Loma or Lopez won, because to win a fight, there actually has to be a real fight. And to me, this looked fake same as Canelo vs Kovalev and a lot of matchups lately. Klitschko vs Fury, Wilder vs Mailk Scott, Fury vs Wilder where Fury got up right at the count of 10 like a Rocky movie, AJ vs Ruiz both fights... I mean, if that's true, then that's 3 of the biggest stars in the sport right there at heavyweight, plus the biggest name in the sport Canelo.

So, why would it be any different for Loma vs Lopez? Especially when Lopez already had one fight, vs Mason Menard, where the KO looked totally fake to me, with bad acting when Menard froze and fell face first. Very theatrical. IMO the punch barely grazed him, just the padding.

IMO, I think the fight looked suspect, and that it may have gone completely to script. To me it looked like they tried to script the fight like Loma was trying his normal 3-4 favorite moves, but that Teofimo was prepared for counters to those moves, so there was nothing Loma could do. And that's how almost the entire fight played out. Except, that's completely ridiculous because Loma has shown hundreds of moves in his fights, not just his 3-4 favorite, and he also knows many many counters to the counters to his moves.

So IMO the fight looked scripted like 1 level deep, and that's what seemed so fake about it. A real fight, it's not 1 level deep, it's 100 levels deep. You try your favorite move, the other has a counter for it, then you don't just try spamming that move over and over. Loma would try to jab then cut the distance, and Lopez would veer his shoulder back or throw a counter to counter it. And this was supposed to explain to the viewer why Loma lost. But IMO, if it were real, Loma would have veered his shoulder back too. He would have adjusted the angle on his moves to reflect what Lopez was doing. He wouldn't just keep spamming it the same way like a video game character with only 1 animation per move.

Loma likes to jab, then duck in closer, but when he tried that vs Lopez, Lopez would throw a short hook to the spot that Loma likes to duck into. That's just normal film study and preparation for a fight. It might surprise Lomachenko the first 2 times he did it. But then, IMO, in a real fight, Loma would duck twice in the move, instead of just once. He would jab, feint the duck in like he normally does to draw the hook from Lopez, and then counter Lopez's counter. And then this back and forth, move-counter-move, can evolve to the 10th degree, to the 100th degree, throughout a real fight.

But in this fight, all we really saw, over and over again, was Loma's normal first moves, and then Lopez having a smart counter for it prepared. And then they would just replay these types of back and forth over and over, like a bad script, instead of Loma experiencing Lopez's counters and then countering them himself. All he ever kept doing was one move at a time. One move by Loma, then Lopez countered. He wasn't doing one move and then immediately a second and then immediately a third. He wasn't drawing out Lopez's moves and then countering those. It was a very basic, boring, fake looking fight to me.

By the late rounds I didn't even care who won, even though Loma was coming back, because it was so boring and uneventful. We waited like 15 months for this fight, I was hoping for a great fight for more anything. But not only was there limited action, there was limited IQ. It was a very shallow show. Like, some movies are written with great depth and subtext, and some are just written really shallow and ******. This was shallow and ******. It was like a movie with two great actors, but they were totally wasted because whoever wrote the movie made such an incompetent, basic, shallow script. The cause and effect in the story to me didn't make any sense. The characters behaved completely illogically throughout the entire story, so to speak. It would be like if the character Lomachenko is supposed to be like an expert scientist, like Tony Stark or something, but in the movie someone asks him, "What is 5+5?" and he says he thinks it is 12. It wouldn't make any sense that an expert scientist can't do basic math.

That's what Lomachenko vs Lopez looked like to me, and that's why I think it was fake, just like if someone tells you they are an expert scientist, but they don't know that 5+5=10, then they're probably lying about being an expert scientist. But it's just my opinion that the fight was fake, nothing more.

Sometimes, one line is all a reply needs........

[Boxing-1013]

Lopez won a lot of early rounds by default. He landed like 3 punches to Loma's 1 or 0. Pretty crazy but that's how it was

[buddyr]

Lopez won a lot of early rounds by default. He landed like 3 punches to Loma's 1 or 0. Pretty crazy but that's how it was

But he won them.

[Mammoth]

I clearly saw Loma winning the fight.

Stopped reading after this part....