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Originally posted by Boxing-1013 View PostDude you are just an ultra Floyd fanboy. Why you are making this about him, and the way you're talking about Loma, who is clearly a great fighter but not as great at 135, I mean you look foolish and it exposes you man. But do you.
Thank you
I give Oscar props for fighting a lot of great fighters. But he was outclassed in a lot of those fights. That's the main difference I see between him and Loma. Oscar had the face and the name but the skills were not top level. I do give him props for fighting other top guys though and not completely shying away from those challenges even though he did take advantage of his A side status sometimes.
Loma wasn't outclassed last night, he was just neutralized by a big explosive fighter. Loma looked ATG at 126-130. He looks like a really good fighter in this era at 135. It is what it is. Thought it was a great fight last night and Lopez started great and held on. Credit to him.
This...well said man
And again I got proven right, all his previous fights were rigged. Rigo "quit" even tho he wasn't hurt...Walters quit even tho he hardly got hit...well yea that's the only two fights worth mentioning and both fights were rigged. You need to go back to the drawing board homie and start watching boxing....learn the A..B and C's of boxing. Salute
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Originally posted by Motorcity Cobra View PostWas it the fancy training? Doing soduku and touching that board with the lights?
Growing up watching Pacquiao, Floyd, Roy Jones Jr, etc I've seen greatness. Never saw it in Loma. I saw a good fighter and nothing more.
He's lost to an over the hill Salido and a 23 year old Teofimo in his first ever title defense. Great fighters and "once in a generation" fighters don't lose to that level of competition. People were predicting he'd school Teo like Floyd schooled Canelo.
Teo has nowhere near the experience Canelo had when he fought Floyd and Floyd was older than Loma is now when he fought Canelo. All that amateur experience and WBS experience and pro experience and he got beat by a 23 year old making his first title defense.
But what I don't understand is that most of you have seen greatness in your lifetime. How were you fooled into thinking Lomachenko was on the level of a Floyd, Pacquiao, De La Hoya, Roy Jones Jr?
I watched a part of the fight, but could not finish watching. Loma was simply not fighting him. There must have been a reason. Teo, while looking good, but did not look great.
I watched Loma walk right in to him, where he would normally be throwing and landing punches, and just sit there doing nothing. As an ex fighter, I simply can not comprehend what could have been going through his mind.
I just re-watched the fight. Why was Loma not fighting him? How bad did he even want it?.......Rockin'
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Originally posted by glenn mcrory View PostEverything just reads to me luke every debatable win for them ends on some giant labyrinthine tower of justification for why yet again, it was not enough.
Yes the Alvarez and Jacobs fights can be losses for Golovkin, you saying they dont doesn't mean anything.
Linares had a knockdown, he shouldve been up, you had it even with the knockdown.
I had Kovalev schooling Ward the first time but Kovalev legitimately got nuked by a head punch in the second fight, he was literally never recovering regardless of low blows so that was a ko loss to me.
Of course you had Lomachenko losing to Lopez, only the actual asylum patients had him winning. Youre not there yet, but youre on your way so log off for a while and cool off.
It is fair to say have a different opinion than I have about Ward-Kov 2. But yeah if you know how to score fights, there aren't 6 rounds for Danny or Canelo in those 3 fights with GGG. And Linares vs Loma was close. It's not like Linares won every round before he got KOed.
You and others are so blinded by your hate for certain fighters that you couldn't score a fight accurately involving them to save your life
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Originally posted by BoZz View PostNo, just a boxing fan...I mean even if I was...there's levels to this sh**...I'm defending a great fighter with a 50-0 record you're breaking sweat here because of a bum with a 14-2 record. I watched the fight again today..what a fkn bum...his footwork gone...his pitty patty punches have no effect.
And again I got proven right, all his previous fights were rigged. Rigo "quit" even tho he wasn't hurt...Walters quit even tho he hardly got hit...well yea that's the only two fights worth mentioning and both fights were rigged. You need to go back to the drawing board homie and start watching boxing....learn the A..B and C's of boxing. Salute
1) weight classes exist for a reason homie.
2) touting a 50-0 record, without getting into the who what where when why how etc is a fool's errand.
Only an ardent fanboy would act like Mayweather is above criticism as far as some things that happened in his boxing career. Was he a great boxer? Of course. Did he have some stuff to legit criticize? Of course. From weight clauses, to certain matchups, to waiting out some opponents (Manny), I mean there is a lot there to critique.
Stop sucking guys off and just keep it real. Take race out of the equation and evaluate each man according to his merit. Best of luck.
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Originally posted by Boxing-1013 View PostLol!!!
1) weight classes exist for a reason homie.
2) touting a 50-0 record, without getting into the who what where when why how etc is a fool's errand.
Only an ardent fanboy would act like Mayweather is above criticism as far as some things that happened in his boxing career. Was he a great boxer? Of course. Did he have some stuff to legit criticize? Of course. From weight clauses, to certain matchups, to waiting out some opponents (Manny), I mean there is a lot there to critique.
Stop sucking guys off and just keep it real. Take race out of the equation and evaluate each man according to his merit. Best of luck.
Few people already told you that you're doing a great job making yourself look like the idiot you are. I am speaking from a neutral point, I am not upset you clearly are. How can anyone defend a hyped up fraud with a 14-2 record and then say mayweather's record/wins means nothing?! This should ring bells that you are obesessed with another men.
You have been living in your own worlds since lomachenko started beating those quitters, thinking no one can touch him. You fan boys made him out to be "God like" and now you're paying the price for it.
I can clearly see you're upset and that's why the change of "tone" but it is what it is homie, he is a bum who got exposed...his silly antics were nowhere to be seen in the fight. Just an amateur who looked lost in the ring. But hey, I am not judging, love him..defend him..cry about it..attack other posters because of him but while doing that please keep holding the 'big L' your "14-2 hero" took
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Originally posted by BoZz View PostYet here you are sucking loma off for the last 2 days, crying about his loss and even daring to compare his record to mayweather's record..you are either really in love with lomachenko or you're on some bad medication.
Few people already told you that you're doing a great job making yourself look like the idiot you are. I am speaking from a neutral point, I am not upset you clearly are. How can anyone defend a hyped up fraud with a 14-2 record and then say mayweather's record/wins means nothing?! This should ring bells that you are obesessed with another men.
You have been living in your own worlds since lomachenko started beating those quitters, thinking no one can touch him. You fan boys made him out to be "God like" and now you're paying the price for it.
I can clearly see you're upset and that's why the change of "tone" but it is what it is homie, he is a bum who got exposed...his silly antics were nowhere to be seen in the fight. Just an amateur who looked lost in the ring. But hey, I am not judging, love him..defend him..cry about it..attack other posters because of him but while doing that please keep holding the 'big L' your "14-2 hero" took
I'm not a Loma fan. He is half a foot shorter than me and about 100 pounds less in weight. I don't identify with him, but he is clearly a great fighter.
Anyone who calls someone like that a 'hypejob' or something like that, I mean you're not a serious person. And your insistence on bringing Floyd into all of these convos, I mean it's weird man. Like how pathetic is that lol. Be your own man dude, stop living through and adamantly defending dudes at every turn.
People can fairly criticize whichever fighter they want. But I will usually chime in when I see such dumb over the top posts, about any fighter. It is correcting the record, really. Because you are so wrapped in your racist bubble, that is all you see.
But I've had similar posts about Crawford, Spence and Wilder in the past year or so, defending them.
Keep being a tribal fanboy though, it suits you. What is your height and weight btw, you never told me that? Want to see if we are in the same class.
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Originally posted by Boxing-1013 View PostHuh? Are you OK dude? I said many times idgaf who won that fight, or any fight really. Sometimes I don't want to see some guys get KOed, as that can be rough for a fighter, but if they lose they lose. As long as the best man wins, it's fine by me.
I'm not a Loma fan. He is half a foot shorter than me and about 100 pounds less in weight. I don't identify with him, but he is clearly a great fighter.
Anyone who calls someone like that a 'hypejob' or something like that, I mean you're not a serious person. And your insistence on bringing Floyd into all of these convos, I mean it's weird man. Like how pathetic is that lol. Be your own man dude, stop living through and adamantly defending dudes at every turn.
People can fairly criticize whichever fighter they want. But I will usually chime in when I see such dumb over the top posts, about any fighter. It is correcting the record, really. Because you are so wrapped in your racist bubble, that is all you see.
But I've had similar posts about Crawford, Spence and Wilder in the past year or so, defending them.
Keep being a tribal fanboy though, it suits you. What is your height and weight btw, you never told me that? Want to see if we are in the same class.
I'm not a Loma fan. He is half a foot shorter than me and about 100 pounds less in weight. I don't identify with him, but he is clearly a great fighter.
Then why the fk are you here 24/7 crying and complaining about anyone who says anything about Bumachenko? You are doing a grat job making yourself look like an idiot, it's not me...you're doing this to yourself lol
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I've been telling this for years that i only want pac-loma to happen at 135 lbs to be a 50-50 fight because it will be a total mismatch 140 above but now evem if the fight happened at 135 pac would have still wrecked loma.
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Originally posted by _original_ View PostIll keep it real here, I never thought he was Floyd/Manny level but I thought he had potential to be a great. Shocking loss honestly, really makes him overrated in a sense to lose to someone like Lopez.
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