If Lomachenko becomes undisputed at LW.

[The Big Dunn]

you dont have to fight someone because they are your mandatory. just drop the belt. why waste your time fighting an unknown unproven guy when you can fight the #1 guy? the reason canelo ducking ggg was so bad is because not only was ggg his mandatory but he was also clearly the best fighter in the division and would have made him the most money. i dont see haney having any of those traits. the only trait that would entice loma would be money and no offer was even made so yeah no fight. haney is fighting gamboa so that shoulddddd tell you whats going on here

It doesn’t matter what anyone’s opinion of Haney is. He earned the shot in the ring as required.

If Loma doesn’t defend against his mandatory and drops the belt as he did, you should be as critical of him as you are any other champion that avoids an opponent in that way.

What’s going on here is he was denied a title fight he earned and now he is taking fights against other opponents while he waits for his shot.

What is really sad is Loma defended against the mando when he had what was a easy win on paper ( Campbell I think).

The he drops because Haney is high risk, low reward and he wants the money from the lopez fight.

Cool, we all understand that. It just isn’t right for anyone to ask Haney to” prove” himself.

We can’t make up new standards for opponents just because it’s Loma.

[R-Hand Southpaw]

He doesn’t have to be near Loma’s level. He is the mandatory. A requirement for being the mando isnt “ probe you are elite”.

As to proving he is elite, He can prove it by beating loma.

Your wording is unfair and incredibly biased. Loma wouldn’t be fighting a talented prospect who was gifted a belt.

He’d be making his mandatory defense against the #1 ranked boxer per the rules of the sanctioning body. Just like every other champion is required to do.

It’s like you’re rewriting the rules just for Loma.

Bruh.

You and all your buddies have been on damage control all week because you have felt so threatened by this fight and because you feel like your iden****** are getting attacked.

Do you have the same critism for Floyd? Nope!

But people like me are biased right?

Floyd had all the power he could to unify and become undisputed in almost any division. Why didn't he?

No one else has ever had that kind if control over their own destiny and what did he do?

Why didn't he fight Thurman or any of the young bucks when he had a few fights left?

So funny man.

When people point out legit critisms for Floyd you guys all get so butt hurt but here you're literally claiming that Loma is ducking Devin Haney because hes all you guys have left.

And that's a shame because at that point its not even about boxing anymore.

Too funny man.

[The Big Dunn]

Just as a side note
It wasn’t the emeritus title. I’m not saying it just to nitpick either. Right now, nobody is sure whether or not the WBC Franchise is the true title (like the Super WBA).

We thought we knew, but Sulaiman has said the WBC sees it as the true title, and that if Lopez wins, he would win it also. That is pretty much how the Super WBA works. Personally I think the Franchise title is now the true WBC title making the WBC a two title system. But it’s up in the air

Fair point. It might be the franchise title.

Either way I just don’t think it was fair to ask Haney to prove himself again. He did what was necessary.

He followed the rules. Did what he was supposed to. Now we seem to have posters that want to create artificial criteria for a mandatory challenger to get a fight.

That isn’t right imo.

[RJJ-94-02=GOAT]

He doesn’t have to be near Loma’s level. He is the mandatory. A requirement for being the mando isnt “ probe you are elite”.

As to proving he is elite, He can prove it by beating loma.

Your wording is unfair and incredibly biased. Loma wouldn’t be fighting a talented prospect who was gifted a belt.

He’d be making his mandatory defense against the #1 ranked boxer per the rules of the sanctioning body. Just like every other champion is required to do.

It’s like you’re rewriting the rules just for Loma.

I’m not bias whatsoever, anyone who understands the sport knows ABC rankings don’t give an accurate reflection whatsoever.

For example, Trevor Bryan is #1 with the WBA and has some form of title. Does he “deserve” to face Anthony Joshua next?

At the this present time, Haney hasn’t done anything to suggest he is a credible threat to Loma. Until he does by fighting and beating better opposition, (which I think he’s capable of) me and most other objective fans aren’t interested in seeing him fight Lomachenko on the back of a string of wins against C and D level opposition.

[RJJ-94-02=GOAT]

Fair point. It might be the franchise title.

Either way I just don’t think it was fair to ask Haney to prove himself again. He did what was necessary.

He followed the rules. Did what he was supposed to. Now we seem to have posters that want to create artificial criteria for a mandatory challenger to get a fight.

That isn’t right imo.

Did what was necessary to get a belt.

Didn’t do what was necessary to prove he’s a capable of mixing it with the elite.

It’s not Haney’s fault at all, it’s a systematic problem with the rankings.

[The Big Dunn]

Bruh.

You and all your buddies have been on damage control all week because you have felt so threatened by this fight and because you feel like your iden****** are getting attacked.

Do you have the same critism for Floyd? Nope!

But people like me are biased right?

Floyd had all the power he could to unify and become undisputed in almost any division. Why didn't he?

No one else has ever had that kind if control over their own destiny and what did he do?

Why didn't he fight Thurman or any of the young bucks when he had a few fights left?

So funny man.

When people point out legit critisms for Floyd you guys all get so butt hurt but here you're literally claiming that Loma is ducking Devin Haney because hes all you guys have left.

And that's a shame because at that point its not even about boxing anymore.

Too funny man.

This thread has nothing to do with Floyd or whatever warped agenda you have.

[Fists_of_Fury]

Let's say Lomachenko beats Lopez, then beats Haney to win all the belts at lightweight. Where would you rank him all time?

• Tied for fewest number of fights to win a world title
  
• Holds the record for fewest number of fights to win a world title in 2 and 3 weight classes
  
• Wins all the belts at LW
• All in less than 20 fights

Would he rank in the top 20 all time?

Hell No!!!!! Nowhere near top 20 all time. He got beat by Salido ffs. That few fights bs needs to take into account that he was old as hell before becoming pro. His resume is lacking, to say the least. His bunboys are delusional.

[The Big Dunn]

I’m not bias whatsoever, anyone who understands the sport knows ABC rankings don’t give an accurate reflection whatsoever.

For example, Trevor Bryan is #1 with the WBA and has some form of title. Does he “deserve” to face Anthony Joshua next?

At the this present time, Haney hasn’t done anything to suggest he is a credible threat to Loma. Until he does by fighting and beating better opposition, (which I think he’s capable of) me and most other objective fans aren’t interested in seeing him fight Lomachenko on the back of a string of wins against C and D level opposition.

2 different arguments dude.

It doesn’t matter what any of us thinks about deserves. He earned the title shot through the proper procedure. Period.

If you don’t like the way things are, that is understandable but that doesn’t mean Haney suddenly doesn’t have the right to the fight.

Since when does someone have prove they are a “credible threat “? You’re literally making up rules that don’t exist.

It doesn’t matter who you want to see fight. It matter who earns the mandatory title shot.

[R-Hand Southpaw]

This thread has nothing to do with Floyd or whatever warped agenda you have.

Bro. The only people here with agendas are people like you.

You just don't like being called out on the **** you do. Always trying to act so slick like you're the smartest guy in the room.

You're not. Its pretty funny though.

I know youre the leader. Those other ****** guys are much too ******. You know how to play dumb.

[Southpawology]

but he has already been massacred by a glass chinned old journeyman doe?

Yeah, gotta love those Split Decision "massacres"