Just To Be Clear On Exactly Who Moved The Trilogy Dates

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  • Eff Pandas
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    #21
    Originally posted by koolkc107
    Listen, he exercised his rematch clause within 30 days of his loss.
    This is the bottom line to me. I have no interest in a trilogy fight, but Wilder does & he called it in already before he was 100% from the rematch L I'd imagine.

    Then a fooking pandemic hit & we still haven't had a fight in the US or UK with full audience as far as I'm aware. Beyond getting into who did what with previous dates I think the pandemic issue is enough of an issue to prevent a fight happening next for either guy unless the other guy signs off on it.

    That's my NSB lawyer take anyway for whatever that's worth.

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      #22
      Originally posted by Eff Pandas
      This is the bottom line to me. I have no interest in a trilogy fight, but Wilder does & he called it in already before he was 100% from the rematch L I'd imagine.

      Then a fooking pandemic hit & we still haven't had a fight in the US or UK with full audience as far as I'm aware. Beyond getting into who did what with previous dates I think the pandemic issue is enough of an issue to prevent a fight happening next for either guy unless the other guy signs off on it.

      That's my NSB lawyer take anyway for whatever that's worth.
      I'll go you one further.

      If Wilder doesn't try to assert his legal rights, then I'm going to assume he doesn't want the fight at this time.

      But, for Arum and Warren- two of the guys directly responsible for the delays- to act like nothing is actionable for any supposed expiration caused directly by them not wanting to lose money on a contract they signed...that's hilarious.

      The contract had guarantees and those guarantees have to be paid by somebody.

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        #23
        Originally posted by kafkod
        His contract expires in Dec. Are you saying he might suddenly pop up and threaten Fury with legal action unless he fights him this year?

        Fury intends to take an interim fight in Dec, then go straight into the big one vs AJ next. If he fights Wilder again it will be as a voluntary, nothing to with the rematch clause.
        I'm saying it's not December.

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          #24
          Originally posted by REDEEMER
          He just explained to you a deadline ? How is it possible you don’t understand this and don’t get Wilder not saying anything is as good as a decline if he is not announcing press conference events and such or his team ?

          Maybe you just don’t understand it’s October 13th already ? Hopefully you at least know it’s 2020 ? Ha
          None of that equates to the fight is off or that Wilder's doing nothing about it.

          Why can't you punctuate for ****?

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            #25
            Originally posted by koolkc107
            Unlike some folks posting here, I don't have amnesia. A few quotes...

            March 24:

            "You could not guarantee the fighters that the event would take place on that date," Arum said. "We couldn't convince them or ourselves. Where were they going to train for it? It just made no sense. You just have to take a step back. How are you going to sell tickets? It's absolutely ridiculous to say the fight is on when the Brits can't even get there."

            The third fight between Deontay Wilder and Tyson Fury will not take place on July 18 as originally scheduled because of the coronavirus pandemic.


            April 28th:

            "Bob Arum told SiNow he informed Tyson Fury that a third fight between Fury and Deontay Wilder would not take place until "November/December" at the earliest. Gate for Fury-Wilder II accounted for $17 million of the total revenue."




            August 10th:

            "And last week, Whyte's promoter Eddie Hearn issued a warning - stating that Fury-Wilder must happen in 2020 or he will push for Whyte to get his mandatory shot.

            But Arum is not the least bit worried - and indicates that Hearn tells him something totally different when they speak in private.

            “The WBC approved the trilogy contract and that provides for postponements. And certainly, if you can’t do it with spectators, a reasonable postponement would be okay. It’s a different kind of fight. The Fury vs Wilder fight in the United States is a major, major fight."

            And also August 10th:

            “All I know is that we are not ingrates. Tyson Fury, Top Rank, we were given the opportunity by Wilder… How do you turn your back on Wilder? That would be absolutely improper. gain, our goal is to do Fury and Wilder, and then if Fury wins, to go right to a Joshua fight plus a rematch. That’s where we stand. It would be an absolute travesty. All these mandatories, schmandatories. People are looking for what the public wants."

            Top Rank's CEO Bob Arum, who co-promotes WBC heavyweight champion Tyson Fury, is confident that nothing will derail the trilogy fight with Deontay Wilder. Fury, with or without the world title, is contractually bound to fight Wilder next. In February, he stopped Wilder in seven rounds to capture the WBC title. Wilder would then exercise his contractual option to an immediate rematch.


            September 30th:

            “We’re moving off because there’s five conference championship games that day and night, plus two NFL games,” Arum said. “So we can’t go with the 19th; we’re looking at other dates right now because ESPN advised us, and Fox advised the PBC [which promotes Wilder].”

            Also September 30th:

            “It’s definitely Allegiant Stadium,” Arum said. “The Raiders are on board, the city is on board, the convention authority is on board. Everybody is on board.”

            https://www.bloodyelbow.com/2020/9/3...te-boxing-news

            None of this has been about Wilder delaying, showing any reluctance, or asking for any favors whatsoever. And by all reports, he's in great shape right now.

            Hope this helps...
            Somebody needs to send this to Team Wilder and their lawyers.

            If they have any.

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              #26
              Originally posted by ShoulderRoll
              Somebody needs to send this to Team Wilder and their lawyers.

              If they have any.
              With Haymon in the mix?

              I'm pretty sure they have this and more.

              I don't agree with the idiots screaming about how Wilder being silent equals Wilder not wanting the fight. Clearly, it's the promoters who have delayed.

              But, if they are trying to pull this nonsense and portray it as Wilder not being ready or not wanting the fight, if they are trying to use that to not honor a contract they broke via their own actions, Wilder kinda has to respond to that.

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                #27
                Originally posted by Marchegiano
                None of that equates to the fight is off or that Wilder's doing nothing about it.

                Why can't you punctuate for ****?
                On what planet does it not ? See this is how I know you have to be on drugs . If Wilder doesn’t put forth an agreement he makes the contract void ,the fight is scheduled for December with no communication from team Wilder they do not want to fight in December because its like 2 months away don’t you understand this 5th grade stuff ? Ha


                Instead of worrying about my wording how about you stop and look at your crazy posting style of a Bunched up hot mess of ranting ,ones that aren’t even coherent and reasonable ? Ha


                Are you even aware team Wilder put the deadline in the contract ?
                Last edited by REDEEMER; 10-13-2020, 02:49 PM.

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                  #28
                  Originally posted by REDEEMER
                  On what planet does it not ? See this is how I know you have to be on drugs . If Wilder doesn’t put forth an agreement he makes the contract void ,the fight is scheduled for December with no communication from team Wilder they do not want to fight in December because its like 2 months away don’t you understand this 5th grade stuff ? Ha


                  Instead of worrying about my wording how about you stop and look at your crazy posting style of a Bunched up hot mess of ranting ,ones that aren’t even coherent and reasonable ? Ha
                  You wrote if for a reason, dumbass.

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                    #29
                    Originally posted by Marchegiano
                    You wrote if for a reason, dumbass.
                    Wrote what ? Talking to yourself again or what ? Ha

                    You can’t even spell correctly using insults . Ha


                    Are you even aware team Wilder put the deadline in the contract ?

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                      #30
                      Originally posted by REDEEMER
                      Wrote what ? Talking to yourself again or what ? Ha

                      You can’t even spell correctly using insults . Ha


                      Are you even aware team Wilder put the deadline in the contract ?
                      God yer dumb. I mean like really, really, ****ing ******. You sure you're from Ohio? Is English not your first language or something? You said if, moron, if you don't remember where, when, or why you said if just read the ****ing quote until you see the word if and it will remind you. Why, tf, do I need to contextualize your ****ing statements for you, ya dumb mook prick?

                      I'll make it really easy to follow:

                      I am skeptical because we have no information from the Wilder side about what their plans for the fight is. All we have from Team Wilder is Finkel saying bull**** while Team Fury says Wilder's team is taking too long and they feel they've fulfilled their end of the contract. On top of this the WBC tells us they still have Wilder-Fury III planned for their next WBC sanctioned HW title fight.

                      So, again, you said "if".

                      Because you can't say did or did not. If Wilder does, can stop there, you have no information on that if. Now, I know that last sentence will be hard for you, because you're dumber than mud, but, trust me, I know how to type. It does make sense, you're just ****ing dumb.

                      Who knows if you know boxing or not. Yer too ****ing ****** to communicate properly regardless.

                      I did spell correctly. I told you before you'll scan my posts for phonetics and colloquials and think they're mistakes because yer that dumb. See that yer? It's not misspelled. Yer just too ****ing ****** to understand the alternative spelling's purpose, dumbass. See what I did there?

                      Last edited by Marchegiano; 10-13-2020, 03:08 PM.

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