Comments Thread For: Sulaiman: Lomachenko Is The WBC Lightweight Champion

[bluebeam]

Whatever fits your agenda man.

Hindsight is 20/20, let's not act like that isn't the truth. All of you guys will do the exact same thing when Lomachenkos hand is raised this Saturday.

Fact is Lomachenko is the real deal. Far more real than most boxers today but guys like you will find any way you can to discredit him.

By the way. Its not like Lomachenko begged Rigo to move up. The fans demanded it and Rigo demanded it. All Lomachenko did was oblige and break the hearts of all his haters around the world.

Loma is the real deal.

But we not gonna act like that resume is stacked because its not. Thats all im saying

Rodriguez
Piriyapinyo
Koasicha
Martinez
Sosa
Marriaga
Crolla
Campbell

None of these dudes have a notable win in there careers. So why should i applaud loma for beating these dudes.

[bluebeam]

Is 11 months a year?

yes or no?

Checkmate!

Like i thought. Keep deflecting

Two weeks short of 12 months changes everything right?

You dudes are hilarious

[Boxing Goat]

Unifications have nothing to do with lineal status.

At TBRB, Crolla was #5 and Linares was #2 when they fought. The only way to establish a new lineage is if the unanimous #1 fights the unanimous #2.

Crawford became lineal because he and Beltran were both unanimously top 2 at TBRB, The Ring, BoxRec, etc.

https://boxing.fandom.com/wiki/List_of_lineal_boxing_world_champions

http://www.cyberboxingzone.com/boxing/light.htm

Nobody except The Ring had Linares vs Crolla as #1 vs #2. That's why it was a Ring Magazine title fight but not a lineal title fight.

Crawford vs Beltran was for the Ring AND the Lineal titles because everybody had them both top two.

So, I disagree because the Ring ranking has always been tops and coincided with lineage but even then, lineage aside, you know that Linares was the #1 LW in the world by Ring and ESPN when Loma beat him, so why exactly are we having this debate? Loma beat the man, so he became THE MAN.

End of story

[Boxing Goat]

The only two ways to win a lineal championship:

1. Beat the previous champion

2. If the title is vacant, then the consensus #1 has to fight the consensus #2.

Crolla and Linares were far from being consensus top 2. Neither of them were ranked #1 at the time by TBRB or BoxRec.

You're the one who doesn't know what lineal means.

Wait, that was serious? LMAO!!!!!!!!

[Boxing Goat]

Lets be clear. Im no hater. I like loma. But facts are facts whether i like a fighter or not. And im not gonna let fanboys try to boost resumes and act like certain wins are amazing.

Context is everything. For example....if we just name mayweather opponents, his resume is incredible. But when you use context. Its not as amazing. Still good. But not great. So lets get to these 4 matchups you speak of.

Gary russell jr was a great win for loma. Best win in my opinion.

Rigo jumped 2 weight classes. Thats a fact. Not an opinion.

So we supposed to praise loma when he beats the smaller man from 2 divisons south. But we shame floyd and Spence when they beat marquez and mikey. Hypocrisy at its finest. Rigo went to 130 for the fight. He at 118 now. That shows you how small he is.

Walters was coming off of a draw and a year layoff. And hasnt fought since.
Thats a fact. Not an opinion

You dudes try to hype walters like he was some dominant champion. Name 1 person he beat besides nonito. You gonna be hard pressed to. And he has zero wins at 130 pre loma and zero wins at 130 post loma.


Linares had been stopped 3 times in his career. Including twice at 135.
Thats a fact. Not an opinion

So why is it a big deal when loma stops a man whose been stopped 3 times by lesser fighters than loma?

Don't deflect either. Answer these questions

We can sit here and debate Loma's wins but the fact is that Loma is the #1 P4P fighter in the damn world for a reason and that's because he's fought all but one fight in his career in title fights. NOBODY has done that. EVER!

Now, you want to hate on Linares but that gets you nowhere because he was on the best run of his career having not lost in like 7 years while capturing the lineal title in several title defenses. And whether you respect that or not is absolutely irrelevant because he was #1 when Loma beat him.

That's the only question in there and it's been answered, emphatically.

Do you need any other boxing lessons? I can do this forever if you want.

[Boxing Goat]

None of those victories happened at Lightweight dum dum.

Fun fact, Rigo not only was 37 years old, he jumped TWO weight classes to fight Loma. He was severely undersized in the match up.

If Rigo is such a great victory for Loma, then Mikey is an incredible victory for Errol Spencs junior.

Lol, right?

GTFOH with that bs, smh!

Oh brother (Linares was the lineal LW champ for fcks sake!)

Dude, just give it up. This is embarrassing for you. I actually feel sorry right now.

[Boxing Goat]

Was he coming off of a year layoff and a draw?

Yes or no

You dudes dont do nothing but deflect. I gave you a fact and you still try to spin it

So.....he forgot how to fight before the Loma fight?

Sounds about right lol

[Boxing Goat]

And rigo is a natural bantamweight who was fighting at super bantamweight. Who went to junior lightweight for loma.

Donaire said out his own mouth he had no business at 126. And he went all the way back to 118. This prove that. And as far as darchynian goes. He been getting knocked around since 115. So stop it.

50/50 on this forum means nothing. Considereing half of the dudes on here are fanboys who dont know **** about boxing.

No, it's you that knows just about your feelings. NOBODY picked LOMA to dominate that fight and hindsight is 20/20.

Just like every unexpected domination Loma puts up, he was supposed to win afterwards and not before. It's a joke.

Just like this weekends fight. You can clearly see how many people are thinking Lopez will KO Loma. Tons! Now, watch, come Sunday, he will be labeled an overrated bum that wasn't ready, etc! Happens every fckn time!

But Loma is scared to fight someone ..... scared of challenges, etc.

It's nonsense and that's all you've been speaking with your amateur debate class bullchit. Everyone sees through this straight into your hater heart. If you criticize the best resume in boxing over the last 6 years, you're a hater.

[Boxing Goat]

Loma is the real deal.

But we not gonna act like that resume is stacked because its not. Thats all im saying

Rodriguez
Piriyapinyo
Koasicha
Martinez
Sosa
Marriaga
Crolla
Campbell

None of these dudes have a notable win in there careers. So why should i applaud loma for beating these dudes.

That's a lie, actually, but for arguments sake:

Those fighters were a combined record of 229-20 when Loma beat them. That's an average record of approx. 29-3! They were also either titlists or top ranked contenders. But even then, can you think of another fighter in history that fought that caliber of fighter from their 1st thru 15th pro fights? There are no others.

Not even close, hater boy. Give it up

[Boxing Goat]

Like i thought. Keep deflecting

Two weeks short of 12 months changes everything right?

You dudes are hilarious

Don't you think it's a little weird that several people are dis*****g what you're saying here? Does that not tell you something?

Do you know that a broken robot doesn't have the awareness itself to know that it's broken? Or, are you just trolling?

Either way, you're embarrassing yourself, mr. non-hater