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  • #31
    He should change his name to "Pocket Muhammed Ali" like one of those old-school fighters

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    • #32
      Originally posted by Angeljuice View Post
      I like Whyte, I like his attitude, he just wants to fight. They were saying he is the number 1 contender not heavyweight (and he was).

      I still think Whyte beats Wilder. His style is all wrong for Wilder and Povetkin is a far better boxer than Wilder could ever be. Povetkin pulled off a single shot win over Whyte but unlike Wilder, it was down to skill, instinct and timing rather than power.

      Unlike Wilder, Whyte hasn't quit the sport because he lost a fight, he gets straight back on the horse for a rematch.

      The British don't drop support for a fighter just because he loses a fight, we aren't American. Whyte has not lost a single supporter since the Povetkin fight and again, nobody has ever called Dillian Whyte the best HW in the World.
      Lol, thanks for proving my point, multiple times over.

      1) yes, there was a guy saying Whyte was the number 1 HW in the world. Not the 1 contender. Many from the UK were saying he was top 3 along with Fury and AJ.

      2) 'The British don't drop support for a fighter just because he loses a fight' 'Whyte has not lost a single supporter since the Povetkin fight'

      You realize you are proving my point right? That you guys hype up and support guys regardless of whether or not they are really that good.

      It's OK to still support a guy, but as we also see with your 'I still think Whyte beats Wilder' nonsense, you still bury your head in the sand for your UK hypejobs and pretend, until the very end, that they are what you desperately want them to be.

      The UK boxing world is littered with British level guys who step up and then get completely outclassed. It happens to guys from all over the world, but nowhere quite like the UK.

      But UK boxing needs people like you. You pay the bills for them with your head in the clouds, and then in the sand.

      It's the same thing your country does with soccer - for every Raheem Sterling who makes it as a real star, you have 10 Jack Wilshires, Jesse Lingards, and Danny Welbecks.

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      • #33
        Originally posted by Boxing-1013 View Post
        Lol, thanks for proving my point, multiple times over.

        1) yes, there was a guy saying Whyte was the number 1 HW in the world. Not the 1 contender. Many from the UK were saying he was top 3 along with Fury and AJ.

        2) 'The British don't drop support for a fighter just because he loses a fight' 'Whyte has not lost a single supporter since the Povetkin fight'

        You realize you are proving my point right? That you guys hype up and support guys regardless of whether or not they are really that good.

        It's OK to still support a guy, but as we also see with your 'I still think Whyte beats Wilder' nonsense, you still bury your head in the sand for your UK hypejobs and pretend, until the very end, that they are what you desperately want them to be.

        The UK boxing world is littered with British level guys who step up and then get completely outclassed. It happens to guys from all over the world, but nowhere quite like the UK.

        But UK boxing needs people like you. You pay the bills for them with your head in the clouds, and then in the sand.

        It's the same thing your country does with soccer - for every Raheem Sterling who makes it as a real star, you have 10 Jack Wilshires, Jesse Lingards, and Danny Welbecks.
        I don't believe you that anybody said Whyte is the best in the world, ever. Prove me wrong if you can.

        We follow fighters we like. There is no community in America, you're constantly at war with yourself so you will never understand true loyalty.

        At heavyweight ANYBODY can get knocked out, was Ali overrated?

        Somebody doesn't just become crap overnight because of a single punch from an old pro but for Americans it's "he's crap now, let's find the next one".

        And look at your own fighters. Over hyped as superstars whilst barely known in the rest of the world.

        Will Lopez be crap after he loses to Loma, or will he still be with following?

        Wilder was fed 40 nobodies to pad his record. He actively avoided all the top fighters and his best opponent was a 50 year old man with a heart condition who almost beat him twice. He is the biggest hype job in modern boxing history and was exposed the first time he fought a half decent boxer. Whyte would beat that clown down.

        I don't follow football it sucks, you seem to know more than I do.
        Last edited by Angeljuice; 10-14-2020, 03:03 PM.

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        • #34
          Originally posted by Angeljuice View Post
          I don't believe you that anybody said Whyte is the best in the world, ever. Prove me wrong if you can.

          We follow fighters we like. There is no community in America, you're constantly at war with yourself so you will never understand true loyalty.

          At heavyweight ANYBODY can get knocked out, was Ali overrated?

          Somebody doesn't just become crap overnight because of a single punch from an old pro but for Americans it's "he's crap now, let's find the next one".

          And look at your own fighters. Over hyped as superstars whilst barely known in the rest of the world.

          Will Lopez be crap after he loses to Loma, or will he still be with following?

          Wilder was fed 40 nobodies to pad his record. He actively avoided all the top fighters and his best opponent was a 50 year old man with a heart condition who almost beat him twice. He is the biggest hype job in modern boxing history and was exposed the first time he fought a half decent boxer. Whyte would beat that clown down.

          I don't follow football it sucks, you seem to know more than I do.
          Lol. Ali got stopped only once. And it was a TKO!!!! at 38, with Parkinson's, and still went 10 rounds with a top 15 all-time HW. His corner/the ref had to throw in the towel. To compare him and Whyte in ANY WAY, is absurd. Whyte got KOed cold at 32 by a top 100 HW all-time, and a guy that is 38 and probably currently fighting more like a top 200 HW all-time.

          NO COMPARISON. Trying to make that comparison, again, proves my point perfectly. As do your other comments. You guys hype up any Tom **** and Harry and Dillian. All countries/places do it, but the UK has so many people who are willing to support literally anyone, that they can push guys as great when in reality they are just OK.

          Well Whyte may soon be irrelevant if he can't beat Povetkin, or even if he can. He is kind of showing his level which isn't the top so who knows how many shots at top level guys he will get.

          But if he fights Wilder, he is probably going out very very early. He will have a puncher's chance, like anyone does at HW. Look at Ruiz beating AJ. Who I'm sure you over-hype as well.

          AJ would only have a puncher's chance vs Wilder as well. The moment a solid right hands from Wilder, AJ is getting hurt and we know he can't recover.

          For anyone to pretend that AJ and Whyte would be favorites against Wilder...considering Wilder's only loss is to the number 1 HW, and he KD him twice in 19 rounds. Whyte has a loss to a top 10 HW and a top 5 HW. AJ has a loss to a top 10 HW.

          But when AJ/Whyte/any other British guy that you surely overrate underperforms, I will be looking for you to see if you finally get it.

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          • #35
            Originally posted by Angeljuice View Post
            I don't believe you that anybody said Whyte is the best in the world, ever. Prove me wrong if you can.
            Yes there was most certainly at least 1 guy saying it. I remember it because we were having a convo on here and I pressed him on something, and he admitted that he felt Whyte was the number 1 HW in the world. It was a similar type discussion where he was talking about how Whyte would KO Wilder, and upon further discussion, he started going on about Whyte really being the number 1 HW. And how the UK had the top 3 HWs with Fury 3rd.

            It doesn't really matter. There is always 1 crazy guy out there so who cares what 1 guy says. But anecdotally it does tell a bit of a story about UK fans.

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            • #36
              How many fights against top 5 heavyweights has Wilder got in his majestic career?

              Let's see who the clown knocked down;
              https://www.givemesport.com/1551996-...al-infographic

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              • #37
                Who's the biggest hype job after reading that?

                Wilders first 39 fights:

                1) Top 5 ranked
                0) Top 10 ranked
                0) Top 20 ranked
                1) Top 25 ranked
                5) Top 50
                1) Top 100
                3) Top 200
                0) Top 300
                7) Top 400
                2) Top 500
                19) not ranked

                How can he lose if he refuses to fight? How could he possibly have lost to a top 10 contender, when he ducked them all?
                Last edited by Angeljuice; 10-16-2020, 02:17 PM.

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                • #38
                  Originally posted by The D3vil View Post
                  If John Smith is also going to start a brand of beer, he's not going to be able to call his beer "John Smith Beer" or he's getting sued.



                  Damn right he'd get sued...
                  Last edited by Citizen Koba; 10-16-2020, 03:10 PM.

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                  • #39
                    Originally posted by Boxing-1013 View Post
                    Yes there was most certainly at least 1 guy saying it. I remember it because we were having a convo on here and I pressed him on something, and he admitted that he felt Whyte was the number 1 HW in the world. It was a similar type discussion where he was talking about how Whyte would KO Wilder, and upon further discussion, he started going on about Whyte really being the number 1 HW. And how the UK had the top 3 HWs with Fury 3rd.

                    It doesn't really matter. There is always 1 crazy guy out there so who cares what 1 guy says. But anecdotally it does tell a bit of a story about UK fans.
                    Come and explain this record to me, I'm waiting.
                    Wilders first 39 fights:

                    1) Top 5 ranked
                    0) Top 10 ranked
                    0) Top 20 ranked
                    1) Top 25 ranked
                    5) Top 50
                    1) Top 100
                    3) Top 200
                    0) Top 300
                    7) Top 400
                    2) Top 500
                    19) not ranked

                    And you have the nerve to say the British hype their fighters, pathetic.

                    Dillian Whyte has a far, far better record of opponents, as do AJ and probably Chisora (and any of the top 10 Brits).

                    Feeling duped?
                    Last edited by Angeljuice; 10-17-2020, 02:46 AM.

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                    • #40
                      Originally posted by Boxing-1013 View Post
                      Lol, thanks for proving my point, multiple times over.

                      It's OK to still support a guy, but as we also see with your 'I still think Whyte beats Wilder' nonsense, you still bury your head in the sand for your UK hypejobs and pretend, until the very end, that they are what you desperately want them to be.

                      The UK boxing world is littered with British level guys who step up and then get completely outclassed. It happens to guys from all over the world, but nowhere quite like the UK.

                      But UK boxing needs people like you. You pay the bills for them with your head in the clouds, and then in the sand.
                      Wilders first 39 fights:

                      1) Top 5 ranked
                      0) Top 10 ranked
                      0) Top 20 ranked
                      1) Top 25 ranked
                      5) Top 50
                      1) Top 100
                      3) Top 200
                      0) Top 300
                      7) Top 400
                      2) Top 500
                      19) not ranked

                      Whyte has beaten:

                      Chisora x2
                      Parker
                      Browne
                      Helanius
                      Rivas
                      Wach

                      Any of those bellow the top 400 in rankings (where 28 of Wilders opponents were dragged up from)?

                      Whyte has a better record!

                      Then you look at AJ and who he has beaten and you have the nerve to compare a paper champ like Wilder with a man who has fought some of the best fighters in the world today to win his multiple belts.

                      And the jokers who think that AJ would look at this clowns record and be afraid of him, should realise when they see those stats what fools they are.
                      AJ avoided Wilder?
                      Anybody still think so?

                      So, an apology will suffice (I can't imagine I haven't convinced you with these facts).
                      The apology is just for not realising the truth, it's not to me, it's to everyone here.

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