What makes Loma vs Lopez a special fight

[PRINCEKOOL]

Why should anyone give a fuc how supposedly athletic a boxer is unless it helps him fight better. In boxing how well you can fight is all that matter and any other type of athletic ability that does not help their fighting ability does not mean a damn thing in the ring. Doing back flips won't make a guy a better fighter. Mayweather was a great fighter but what were his other athletic achievements than make him any more athletic than other great boxers like Loma. If he was excellent at any other sport besides boxing it's news to me.

Athleticism can help a boxer become a better fighter. Athleticism is many things 'I would imagine? That you are coming at this subject with, a close perception of what athleticism is etc.

Co-ordination, spatial awareness, reaction time are all forms of athleticism 'Then you have speed, and overall strength'.

Floyd Mayweather was clearly a better athlete than Lomachanko 'Faster one punch speed, and even his spatial awareness was much greater'.

Lomachanko gives the illusion of being this supreme athlete 'The elegance in the way he moves his body, amplifies this illusion' He is a classically trained dancer so, this helps him project a certain image.

Lomachaneko is a good athlete, but I would not put him within the same realm as all the fighters I have just mentioned.

Note: Mayweather was greater athlete, and also had better technical skills than Lomachenko 'But Lomachenko is really impressive, make no doubt about that'.

[b Murphington]

Why should anyone give a fuc how supposedly athletic a boxer is unless it helps him fight better. In boxing how well you can fight is all that matter and any other type of athletic ability that does not help their fighting ability does not mean a damn thing in the ring. Doing back flips won't make a guy a better fighter. Mayweather was a great fighter but what were his other athletic achievements than make him any more athletic than other great boxers like Loma. If he was excellent at any other sport besides boxing it's news to me.

This is so true. I think we get too caught up in how “athletic” a boxer is.

It’s about transferring that athleticism in the ring and making it work for you to get a win.

Case in point, I see Wilder as being pretty athletic. It carried him in the sport to a certain extent, but it has been shown that it only helps him box to a certain level. Athleticism doesn’t equate to being a great boxer.

A little off topic, but the way I see it, the true mark of an athletic guy, is being a multi sport athlete at a high level. Bo Jackson comes to mind.

[PRINCEKOOL]

This is so true. I think we get too caught up in how “athletic” a boxer is.

It’s about transferring that athleticism in the ring and making it work for you to get a win.

Case in point, I see Wilder as being pretty athletic. It carried him in the sport to a certain extent, but it has been shown that it only helps him box to a certain level. Athleticism doesn’t equate to being a great boxer.

A little off topic, but the way I see it, the true mark of an athletic guy, is being a multi sport athlete at a high level. Bo Jackson comes to mind.

Explain to me how Wilder is athletic? What are you talking about?

Do you think Wilder has great movement? Does he strike you as having great processing speed and reaction time?

b morph you have stereotypical, describe Wilder as being athletic 'Because of his basketball background' You have not really thought what you was about to say.

What is the big deal about a 6"7 man dunking a basketball? There is no big deal, I don't think it is a great athletic achievement 'Basketball players are overrated as athletes'.

[QueensburyRules]

Athleticism can help a boxer become a better fighter. Athleticism is many things 'I would imagine? That you are coming at this subject with, a close perception of what athleticism is etc.

Co-ordination, spatial awareness, reaction time are all forms of athleticism 'Then you have speed, and overall strength'.

Floyd Mayweather was clearly a better athlete than Lomachanko 'Faster one punch speed, and even his spatial awareness was much greater'.

Lomachanko gives the illusion of being this supreme athlete 'The elegance in the way he moves his body, amplifies this illusion' He is a classically trained dancer so, this helps him project a certain image.

Lomachaneko is a good athlete, but I would not put him within the same realm as all the fighters I have just mentioned.

Note: Mayweather was greater athlete, and also had better technical skills than Lomachenko 'But Lomachenko is really impressive, make no doubt about that'.

- -Non athletes should be banned talking about athleticism in boxing.

Non athletic Joe Frazier BTFO Ali in the fight of the century.

U FAIL!

[b Murphington]

Explain to me how Wilder is athletic? What are you talking about?

Do you think Wilder has great movement? Does he strike you as having great processing speed and reaction time?

b morph you have stereotypical, describe Wilder as being athletic 'Because of his basketball background' You have not really thought what you was about to say.

What is the big deal about a 6"7 man dunking a basketball? There is no big deal, I don't think it is a great athletic achievement 'Basketball players are overrated as athletes'.

Okay I’ll explain. Wilder got started in boxing super late at 20 yrs of age. His amateur career was extremely limited, having a reported record of about 30 - 5. In spite of starting in a sport as late as he did and with as little experience as he had, he ended up winning an Olympic medal.

I don’t believe that you can get to that point with such limited experience, without some type of athleticism. There are thousands amateurs who have trained most of their lives, have had hundreds of fights, tons of experience, and fail to make an Olympic team.

He was learning on the job, only had 3 years of boxing experience, and somehow wins a medal. To me, that shows athleticism. In a sport where most people start in their teens or younger, he starts as a grown man and accomplished what many couldn’t. There are hundreds, perhaps thousands of boxers who are better boxers than Wilder, who have accomplished less. Ask yourself why that is.

Now, back to my original point, his athleticism does not equal being a great boxer. His background shows that and the eye test shows that. He is the perfect example of a boxer with limited skills, who’s athleticism brought him some success.

[MUNG]

wilder was too athletic for football and basketball so he decided to switch to boxing

[boliodogs]

freshly minted 23 year olds with 15-16 fights are rarely in a fight with a 32 year old top 3 p4p fighters(who have been on that perch for years now)....thats why you see the gap in odds...

what do you think odds would look like if you put canelo in with munguia...or crawford in with ennis or ortiz jr?

its a much closer matchup when truly looking at it....oddsmakers are wrong every day...alot...not saying loma might not whitewash lopez...certainly a very possible outcome

lopez is def too small for 154...as loma will never fight a top guy north of 135 either....despite the talk i think both guys know what theyre getting into and have a ton of respect for each others abilities here

I didn't make the odds and maybe they should be closer. Lopez looked scary good in his last fight. I am a Loma fan and don't like Lopez because of his arrogance and the disrespect he shows others. i hope he loses but I will be worried that he wins until the fight is over. If he KOs Loma the father and son bragging will go through the roof.bragging is not against the law and lots of fighters brag to excess. Nothing I can do about it but I prefer the boxers who do their fighting in the ring and not outside the ring with their mouth.

[PRINCEKOOL]

Okay I’ll explain. Wilder got started in boxing super late at 20 yrs of age. His amateur career was extremely limited, having a reported record of about 30 - 5. In spite of starting in a sport as late as he did and with as little experience as he had, he ended up winning an Olympic medal.

I don’t believe that you can get to that point with such limited experience, without some type of athleticism. There are thousands amateurs who have trained most of their lives, have had hundreds of fights, tons of experience, and fail to make an Olympic team.

He was learning on the job, only had 3 years of boxing experience, and somehow wins a medal. To me, that shows athleticism. In a sport where most people start in their teens or younger, he starts as a grown man and accomplished what many couldn’t. There are hundreds, perhaps thousands of boxers who are better boxers than Wilder, who have accomplished less. Ask yourself why that is.

Now, back to my original point, his athleticism does not equal being a great boxer. His background shows that and the eye test shows that. He is the perfect example of a boxer with limited skills, who’s athleticism brought him some success.

Everybody has some type of athleticism 'That does not mean that have great athleticism' But of course Deontay Wilder is a good athlete.

Deontay Wilder inside of a boxing ring, for me does not display great athleticism. Is Deontay Wilder's movement great? No. Is his processing speed and reaction times great? No. Wilder is constantly falling over and stumbling about, even when nobody is punching him 'His spatial awareness seems quite low' but I do believe his stumbling about is more down to weak core muscles and posterior chain.

Of course Wilder has some athletic ability, and you are correct? This has most likely helped him achieve what he has achieved in the sport 'Which validates my point also, that Athleticism can make you a better fighter'.

Decent reply anyway, at-least you explained your point.

Note: I think people have a closed perception of what athleticism is, it covers a varied amount of activities. Wilder is explosive and clearly generates a lot of elastic energy.
I.E muscles generate force, tendons can actually store and release energy like springs 'The man is a game fighter also, I will never question Wilder's courage and willingness to fight'.

[b Murphington]

Everybody has some type of athleticism 'That does not mean that have great athleticism' But of course Deontay Wilder is a good athlete.

Deontay Wilder inside of a boxing ring, for me does not display great athleticism. Is Deontay Wilder's movement great? No. Is his processing speed and reaction times great? No. Wilder is constantly falling over and stumbling about, even when nobody is punching him 'His spatial awareness seems quite low' but I do believe his stumbling about is more down to weak core muscles and posterior chain.

Of course Wilder has some athletic ability, and you are correct? This has most likely helped him achieve what he has achieved in the sport 'Which validates my point also, that Athleticism can make you a better fighter'.

Decent reply anyway, at-least you explained your point.

Note: I think people have a close perception of what athleticism is, it covers a varied amount of activities. Wilder is explosive and clearly generates a lot of elastic energy.
I.E muscles generate force, tendons can actually store and release energy like springs 'The man is a game fighter also, I will never question Wilder courage and willingness to fight'.

I would say his explosiveness is his greatest gift and attribute. His balance is probably his poorest, but it goes hand in hand with his explosiveness.

He puts 100% into a lot of his punches, which allows him to be explosive, which in turn, throws him off balance. And we know that’s not how boxing is taught. It’s actually ironic because if he threw proper punches with proper technique, he would actually lose a lot of his explosiveness.

But I think it’s too late for him to change anything drastic. He is what he is at this point. He could’ve learned or changed something earlier in his career, but I think it’s too late for him at this point.

[Rick Taylor]

level of Prince Naseem Hamed, Roy Jones Junior, Amir Khan or even Floyd Mayweather? These were fighters with rare athletic attributes'.

how so???????

i mean what a bunch of weird and wrong examples