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  • Originally posted by Nash out View Post

    Imagine Wilder clipping him? What happens then?
    To be fair, you can say that about practically anyone Wilder lands on. He might be limited but his power is for real and gives him a chance against anybody.

    AJ/Wilder is probably 60/40 in Joshuas favour imo. They both get caught and wobbled a lot, they'd both be the biggest puncher the other has faced, but AJ just has more to his game overall.

    Ruiz is so different to Wilder stylistically. Hes a smaller guy who is more of a combination puncher and has faster hands and a better chin than AJ, which is why he got the better of that sloppy firefight situation but lost to AJs range and movement in the second fight. Whereas Wilder is a lanky dude who likes to snipe people from distance with that right hand. That AJ/Ruiz 1 rock'em sock'em closer range scenario probably goes in AJs favour against Wilder because hes a much tighter combination puncher and his uppercut and left hook are probably his most dangerous weapons. I'm not sure Wilder actually recovers from that hard uppercut/left hook combo that dropped Ruiz either.

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    • Ortiz has an opponent .. he's crap.

      Rivas is fine he's top rank just give us that at least, just not Browne.

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      • Nice, finally a challenging match..lucky we didn't have to witness him brutalizing Wilder again..pheww

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        • Originally posted by Nash out View Post
          Ruiz battered Joshua around the ring for seven rounds. Fair play to Joshua for winning the rematch, and I only recall him getting hit with any kind of half decent connection once, somewhere around round 7/8 and he was on jelly legs for a bit.

          Imagine Wilder clipping him? What happens then? Joshua has no poker face when he's hurt, everybody knows it. When Wilder jumps on him it's game over. Wlad had him, but Wlad was ******ly cautious and lost because of it.

          Anybody who fights cautiously against Joshua, except Fury who beats him anyway he wants, will lose. Ruiz's gunslinging approach in the first fight is the key to beating Joshua for the other top fighters.
          at the end of the day any heavyweight can get clipped and stopped and one punch is all it takes..fury could have easily been counted out by any othe ref and that would have been a ko loss on his record , he’s been dropped by Cunningham and and a Euro bum so fury is hardly George chuvalo.
          Fury will not engage with Joshua a guarantee you that...wilder on the other hand has one shot in his arsenal and if you take away his right hand he pretty much is nullified.
          Joshua would ko wilder brutally with shots right down the middle lol

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          • Originally posted by kafkod View Post
            You are too dumb to realise that you are making my point for me there!

            Because of Covid, the deadline for the rematch was extended from July to December. Wilder has a legally binding rematch clause, which means his team could force Fury to fight him this year, if they wanted it to happen.

            They aren't doing anything to make it happen, because they agree with Bob Arum. Without a live gate, there isn't enough money in it for them.
            I think your reading comprehension is still hooked on phonics. While your banking on your scum bag hero hopefully being able to circumvent the Wilder trilogy due to the expiration of a Covid extension, those conditions still exists, so if another extension is requested through litigation, then it would most likely be granted.

            I see your quick to wanna speak "finality" into existence regarding this trilogy, so Fury can get back to his usually Can-Man operation. Not so fast my petrified little friend !
            First we gotta see what Furys made of without any kinda glove altering advantage, of which he had the luxury of in both fights.

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            • Originally posted by SugarRaRobinson View Post
              While your banking on your scum bag hero hopefully being able to circumvent the Wilder trilogy due to the expiration of a Covid extension, those conditions still exists, so if another extension is requested through litigation, then it would most likely be granted.
              What the fuck are you on about? Boxing resumed in June in the US and July in the UK, you jackass.

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              • Originally posted by The plunger man View Post
                at the end of the day any heavyweight can get clipped and stopped and one punch is all it takes..fury could have easily been counted out by any othe ref and that would have been a ko loss on his record , he’s been dropped by Cunningham and and a Euro bum so fury is hardly George chuvalo.
                Fury will not engage with Joshua a guarantee you that...wilder on the other hand has one shot in his arsenal and if you take away his right hand he pretty much is nullified.
                Joshua would ko wilder brutally with shots right down the middle lol
                Fury has fast recovery time and recovery instincts. Joshua doesn't. I really want that Joshua vs Wilder fight just to see what happens. I really think it would all just kick off, explosively right from the first bell. I'm not sure the fight would get out of round 1 regardless of who wins, if they just have a tear up. Both are powerful, Wilder more so, Joshua with better skills. I want that fight first. I think if Joshua beats Wilder, then it makes the Fury fight the definitive #1 and #2.

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                • No surprise to see Fury walking away from this rematch. The same thing happened with Wlad. Fury only takes fights that benefit him. That's why he never fights anyone in the top-20 unless they are a champion.

                  All his title defences will be either against existing champs (Joshua) or bums

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                  • Originally posted by koolkc107 View Post
                    I'm putting the blame where it belongs.

                    Backed up by quotes from Fury's promoters, of course.

                    And you respond by making up shyt?

                    Must be nice in that fantasy world you live in...
                    You're arguing with idiots. Plastic nationalist dumbasses who cannot see beyond their petty US/UK war when discussing...boxing. The most morally and loyalty bankrupt sports out there lol

                    TBH I think Fury is (quite rightfully TBF) forcing Wilder's hand. I can only lean on the current spat being for two reasons, either Wilder's badly injured and needs more time or they're trying to eke out a bigger payday. I'm not entirely sure why Fury is choosing to leave such a large purse on the table, but there you go. I'm assuming they're thinking some money is better than no money so its better to just get a few PPV fights out of the way and bank on the massive upsurge of interest Fury will enjoy from a UK public who are far, FAR more interested in watching him fight compared to when he beat Wlad in 2015. Its just typical boxing politics TBH. One thing that does make me wonder ever so slightly is that this seems like something being pushed more by Arum/Warren rather than Fury. I'm assuming they stand to lose more the longer Fury is out of action. A December bout for Fury against just about anybody would still be a very lucrative domestic affair. There is just about **** all happening in December and it will be close to the Joshua-Pulev bout so will certainly create good buzz.

                    And this is coming from someone who much prefers Wilder out of the three.

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                    • Originally posted by joe strong View Post
                      Can team Wilder block this voluntary? I would assume they could legally but if he does fight it will be against Kabayel, Rivas, Hunter or Ajagba as those 4 are not scheduled to fight nor would they be anywhere near a title shot in normal circumstances. The opponent would have to be willing to fight on shorter notice & willing to take a moderate purse. That would leave me thinking either Hunter or Kabayel.
                      I do not know the details of the contract but I have read that the rematch was to take place within 6 months of the last fight. Obviously due to covid this was postponed. There was a date set and then that date was pushed back numerous times and now when the fight looked to have a hard date they try to push it back yet again. Without knowing the details it is hard to say but I am going to say that the fight no longer happens and Fury moves on while Wilder is left in the wind.

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