Teddy Atlas promoting MMA and working with MMA fighters

[Rick Taylor]

Yeah they've done it a couple of times this year already with the Conor fight and then Jorge/Usman did I think 1.3m. Pretty good year for them.

so doing better than boxing right now?
numbers i mean?

[TMLT87]

so doing better than boxing right now?
numbers i mean?

As a PPV draw its a lot more consistent yeah, it was even in the Floyd & Pac era. They tend to have much better online engagement when it comes to Youtube views etc as well.

Its apples to oranges in some respects though I guess, considering how scattered around the place boxing is with all the different promotions on different networks.

[Rick Taylor]

As a PPV draw its a lot more consistent yeah, it was even in the Floyd & Pac era. They tend to have much better online engagement when it comes to Youtube views etc as well.

Its apples to oranges in some respects though I guess, considering how scattered around the place boxing is with all the different promotions on different networks.

makes sense.

tbf boxing doesnt deserve to do well right now. boxing has become a worse version of wwe.

the two things that put off casuals the most.
boredom and fixed fights.

[TMLT87]

makes sense.

tbf boxing doesnt deserve to do well right now. boxing has become a worse version of wwe.

the two things that put off casuals the most.
boredom and fixed fights.

Pretty much. Boxing sabotages itself over and over sadly. Its actually impressive that it manages to still be as popular as it is when it coasts along at 50% of its potential most of the time. Practically every potentially huge fight gets marinated for years, some dont even happen in the end, its ****ing insane. If the UFC half arsed it like that i dont think they would survive very long.

[TMLT87]

And for the guy complaining about MMA discussion being on here. Theres a thread about Loma/Lopez on the first page of Sherdog at the moment. Like 90% of MMA fans on there are praising the fight and saying they will watch it over the UFC this weekend. Funny how they dont get all insecure eh?

[Rick Taylor]

Pretty much. Boxing sabotages itself over and over sadly. Its actually impressive that it manages to still be as popular as it is when it coasts along at 50% of its potential most of the time. Practically every potentially huge fight gets marinated for years, some dont even happen in the end, its ****ing insane. If the UFC half arsed it like that i dont think they would survive very long.

iv heard robberies are starting to get more rampant in mma to. how much truth is their to that?

and for all the money generated, how much actually goes to fighters? i hear they are paid way worse then boxing counterparts.

[TMLT87]

iv heard robberies are starting to get more rampant in mma to. how much truth is their to that?

Theres contentious decisions and controversial stoppages at times (always has been) but its not as bad as boxing can be. Plus you dont get the whole Wilder/Fury or Canelo/GGG tactic of fights ending in draws so they can spend a year building to the rematch. Or immediate rematches any time someone they wanted to win loses.

and for all the money generated, how much actually goes to fighters? i hear they are paid way worse then boxing counterparts.

With a few exceptions (Conor, Khabib, Brock when he was there) most main event level guys make in the 400-700k range with various 50k bonuses available if you get KO of the night, fight of the night etc. So yeah, a lot less than their boxing equivalents. Tbh though, the lower pay (and the UFC having a monopoly on the sport to a degree) is a big part of why they can put out stacked cards on a relatively frequent basis. I mean, Loma/Lopez is costing about $5m in combined purses I think, thats more than literally the entire combined purses of UFC 253. And yet ESPN is giving Loma/Lopez away for free while they had the UFC 253 on PPV and it did 700k buys. Theres a huge disconnect.