Comments Thread For: Lomachenko: Who Made Rules About Age In Boxing? I'm Just 32; I Feel Young

[_Rexy_]

Manny Pacquiao felt the same way as Vasily Bumochenko, but Vasily dismissed the ATG ; claiming that Manny Pacquiao was past his best. Lomachenko said, '' I think hes too old.'' -- fought Rigo tho.

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Manny Pacquiao heard Bumochenko's words and said, ''who made rules about age in boxing?'', and proceeded to take the regular WBA 147 title from Lucas Matthysse and the 'Super-welterweight' title from Keith Thurman, but that was a good excuse not to fight the 'Pacman'.

That was after the horn fight? Damn my timeline was messed up. I can’t blame him for passing on pac it it was after the Horn fight. We all thought Pacquao was finished and he couldn’t even fight in America anymore. He was self promoting and fought in Malaysia without it even being televised

[SteveM]

That sounded so much better in your head...

Lol. He is so sure that Lopez will win that he will have his first ever bet so we better take his word for it. Meanwhile the more canny among us are looking to see where the big money is going and as Loma is a 1-4 on favorite then the answer is ON HIM unless there's a flurry of late bets.

Lopez has a punchers chance at the very least (and maybe more). If he somehow imposes his will on the fight then look for a Lopez KO. But if he hasn't done that by round 8 them probably Loma is going to a points win.

Lopez by stoppage (not technical) at any point in the fight is 11/2 - those are pretty tasty odds right there if you see that in your crystal ball. But it also means that the bookies don't see it as very likely. Some chance but not much. [no chance would be like 25/1 or 33/1]

I'm a little conflicted on that - I put his odds getting the stoppage better than that. I'm tempted as there's value there.

There's no value in Loma to win fight at 1/4.

[SteveM]

Yep. The Loma is old stuff is BS. I don't know why it even started...

not chronologically old but physically old for a fighter due to wear and tear. He's taken a bit of punishment too from Linares and Campbell.

[SteveM]

LMAO! That's so true! That's what I give Mayweather (and LeBron) so much credit for! Not everyone who comes from the bottom, can keep their commitment to training, and keep the hunger to be great, AFTER they get some money in their pockets!

Primary exhibit > step forward About Billions and take a bow

[j.razor]

The lomochencko fans were trying to make that rule cuz they full of excuses....the 2nd rule they are trying to make is that he doesn't belong at 135

[Eff Pandas]

I mean he's not wrong, BUT statistical most of the best fighters who've ever lived were shadows of their best self in their early 30's.

No argument from me there are guys who stayed world class into their late 30's & 40's in some cases. The average great fighter doesn't doe. And lil guys seem to age out faster on average.

Maybe Loma is one of those guys who ages out in his early 30's like most guys do or maybe he won't. We'll have to wait & see.

[LoadedWraps]

32 is still prime. It's known historically that about 95% of the time once you hit 35 years old is when there starts to be a real decline.

History doesn't matter today because we have far more nutritional and genetic knowledge than when that data was gathered and when decline in your 30s was significant.

And Lomachenko is right, and I've been telling this to people for a while now. Age is just a number, that doesn't necessarily correlate with the age of your body, the mileage on your body. How you feel and how you are performing are what matters, not some armchair analyst saying "oh, fighter A is 35, fight B is 25, I'm favoring fighter B". That's an extraordinarily lazy and antiquated take. Responsibly, athletes should today, be able to compete at a high level until about 45.

[Jab jab boom]

History doesn't matter today because we have far more nutritional and genetic knowledge than when that data was gathered and when decline in your 30s was significant.

And Lomachenko is right, and I've been telling this to people for a while now. Age is just a number, that doesn't necessarily correlate with the age of your body, the mileage on your body. How you feel and how you are performing are what matters, not some armchair analyst saying "oh, fighter A is 35, fight B is 25, I'm favoring fighter B". That's an extraordinarily lazy and antiquated take. Responsibly, athletes should today, be able to compete at a high level until about 45.

if you're not taking peds, you're going to decline at around 35 way more often than not. Competing at a high level until 45 will never be the norm in any sport, especially boxing.

[Roadblock]

32 is a good age very tough mentally and his body is seasoned, Loma is the experience here and a young lion is coming, Loma can make it as frustrating as hell while breaking you down, Lopez will be bomb dangerous all the way.

[Roadblock]

if you're not taking peds, you're going to decline at around 35 way more often than not. Competing at a high level until 45 will never be the norm in any sport, especially boxing.

Yes it will science is seeing to that, all sports they are competing at top level older, cant stop evolution so long as improvement is to be had records and age will tumble.

Even racehorses and livestock are peak performing longer.