Comments Thread For: Floyd Mayweather: I'm TBE - Not Ali, Marciano or Menayothin!

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  • batista84
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    #91
    Floyd is an ATG, he is an elite fighter but his claims doesn't have very strong foundations. Records aren't everything in boxing, I mean they are important no doubt about it, they compound one of the top criterias to qualify how great a fighter was but it's not everything about records.

    He claims that he beat more champions than those guys, the problem with this statement is that on those days winning a championship was harder because there was only one champion, nowadays you have 4 beltholders per weightclass not including interims, regulars, franchise **** and all of that, you get my point.

    Also back on those days jumping divisions was much harder because boxing did not have as much divisions as of now.

    He is definitely on the ATG list no doubt about it, but it's very hard to rank him as the number 1, I wouldn't put any of his foes above a Duran or a Leonard as an example. Pacquiao is the best fighter he fought on paper but he did not fought him on his prime.

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    • factsarenice
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      #92
      That's absolute BS. Floyd ducked prime Margarito, it's a fact and easily verifiable. At that time Margarito was a killer, he had a style that Floyd had absolutely no answer for. His uncle Roger said Margarito was dangerous, similar to Chavez and to stay away.

      As for Baldomir the feather duster salesman, he was the weakest belt holder. Baldo knew he would lose to any top 5 and offered his next fight to the highest bidder...plan,simple and again, verifiable...

      Originally posted by ShoulderRoll
      Prime Cotto was kept away from him when both were with Top Rank.

      Margarito wasn't ducked. Floyd left the company and moved on to chasing the lineal welterweight title for more money than Arum had offered him.

      Pac ducked Floyd in 2009 because of a little drug testing.

      Anything else you need to be corrected on?

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      • factsarenice
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        #93
        Originally posted by batista84
        Floyd is an ATG, he is an elite fighter but his claims doesn't have very strong foundations. Records aren't everything in boxing, I mean they are important no doubt about it, they compound one of the top criterias to qualify how great a fighter was but it's not everything about records.

        He claims that he beat more champions than those guys, the problem with this statement is that on those days winning a championship was harder because there was only one champion, nowadays you have 4 beltholders per weightclass not including interims, regulars, franchise **** and all of that, you get my point.

        Also back on those days jumping divisions was much harder because boxing did not have as much divisions as of now.

        He is definitely on the ATG list no doubt about it, but it's very hard to rank him as the number 1, I wouldn't put any of his foes above a Duran or a Leonard as an example. Pacquiao is the best fighter he fought on paper but he did not fought him on his prime.
        Context is everything, great read.

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        • champion4ever
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          #94
          Originally posted by BodyBagz
          Any fighter who can accumulate 100+ wins has a high number of bums. You can't find that many credible opponents to fight.

          Check it out.
          They weren't making anywhere near the money that the fighters of today are making which is why many of them fought sometimes twice a week just to eat and make the ends meet.

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          • Gentblue
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            #95
            Originally posted by daggum
            no...just no. floyd constantly changed what he wanted over and over, eventually saying he gets all the ppv revenue. thats absurd and you know it. he only fought pac when showtime forced him, after pac was ko'd, and while cheating with tue's. thats the truth. floyd has a long history of ducking, just look up what he did vs margarito or winky. same crap
            Floyd tried to save the fight and Pac walked away they’re court documents to prove that, so that after what’s the point. Floyd felt Pac was on something but Pac sued him he stopped bringing it up.

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            • Curtis2
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              #96
              Originally posted by BIG GUNZ
              Floyd is an all time great but he’s so insecure. It’s possible he could have legitimately had a case for being the best ever if he didn’t strategically fight his opponents at the times he wanted to. He chose money over legacy so he has to live with the vast majority of critics not having him as the best ever.
              Floyd is heavy on the testosterone tablets, it's the only way he can feel important... a much better offensive fighter with his mouth than his fists!!

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              • meXFISTologYy
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                #97
                The Menayothin thing is absolutely true, you got idiot writers here who wanna say he's better than mayweather just because he had more undefeated fights smh it's called LEVEL of OPPOSITION dumbfcks , that guy has beaten nobody with a name

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                • Chavmex40
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                  #98
                  No one like Sugar Ray Robinson! Mayweather please!

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                  • jimmyjamm32002
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                    #99
                    Total punches landed doesn't always mean that person won. A boxer can out punch another boxer by a huge margin in early rounds by throwing jabs when the other boxer is throwing less more effective power shots. The Castillo fight was close even with Floyd's hand injury but Floyd never was in any danger. Matter of fact throughout Floyd's entire career there were only a few times when he was caught with a shot he never had a fighter to war it out with or even make a battle. His fights were all easy with exception of (Delahoya, Castillo, Maidana 1). By far the most skilled and fundamentally sound fighter with defense ever.
                    Last edited by jimmyjamm32002; 10-05-2020, 10:03 AM.

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                    • OldTerry
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                      #100
                      Originally posted by ToMeKeMoT
                      Yes, that was Floyd's biggest loss.

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