Comments Thread For: Deontay Wilder, Longtime Co-Trainer Mark Breland Part Ways

[markther]

That would be hilarious if Fury hires Breland as a camp advisor. Floyd said the other day on a Podcast with Shannon Sharpe, “I can definitely help him, all he needs to do is reach out. I’m trying to help fighters now and that’s a fighter I can improve right away.”

But I think Floyd’s price may be too hefty or Wilder is still in his feelings about the shade Floyd threw him B4.

[Mmann2e]

It doesn't matter all this is Wilder understanding it's likely over, throw caution to the wind and dare to be great. If he loses he finished PBC will make sure of that if he wins he has two more fights Jay Deas is the co-manager so you can't fire him easily and Mark Breland isn't. Deontay will have a chance to prove something to himself or the world or get to die in the ring if he chooses.

[champion4ever]

That's not Breland's fault. And let's have it right, Deas is head trainer and has been with Wilder longer, if you're looking to falsely place blame. The truth of the matter is, Wilder only ever had his height, reach, and power going for him. He was never going to become a well rounded fighter with any type of technical skill, regardless who trained him his entire career. Why? I'm not saying this to troll the man but just as an actual fact...Wilder simply doesn't have the intellectual capacity. The guy is thicker than an obese black girls booty. What makes me say tha you might ask? Literally every single interview he's ever done lol For that same reason, whoever he brings in to replace Breland will make no impact whatsoever.

You can teach an old dog new tricks. But you can't teach a ****** dog more than the basics.

I happen to agree with a lot of what you have to say. Wilder could bring anybody in to train him but he must be disciplined and willing enough to follow their instructions. I agree you can take a horse to the river but you can't make him drink unless he wants to.

Also, you are right about Mark Breland. He was only doing his job by trying to preserve Wilder's career and health but most importantly his life.

In addition, I concur with your assessment that Jay Deas is a piece of shit. He doesn't give two dips about Deontay Wilder the man. All he cares about Deontay making money for him even at the expense of costing him his boxing career and life. Wilder should immediately fire his ass and Shelly Finkel too.

However, I think your overall criticism is a bit harsh with a bunch of racist tropes and overtones in it when you question Deontay Wilder's intellectual capacity. If that was indeed the case, then why are the greatest boxers of all-time are Black; If they lacked the intellectual capacity to be great?

Wilder has the aptitude to improve his boxing ability but he must be ready and willing in order to do so. It all begins and ends with him. He has to want it for himself.

He has surrounded himself with a bunch of Yes men who are only in it for the money who are telling him only what he wants to hear. Remember that boxing was never Deontay Wilder's calling in the first place. He only took up the sport later in life in order to raise money for his ailing daughter.

With all things being equal; I think he made a pretty good name and living for himself for a boxer with very limited skills, amateur pedigree and with no affinity for the sport or its rich history whatsoever.

His only professional loss of his career has come at the hands of the greatest heavyweight boxer in the history of the sport; Tyson Fury. Whom he arguably knocked out in their first bout.

[Ray*]

... Breland didn't act against his fighter's interest... because if so, he would have acted against his own interest...
... but OK, people always need scapegoats...

Yep that narrative been pushed by some poster of him “acting against his fighters best interests” is strange and plain dumb.

He is his trainer. No trainer that cares about his/her fighter would watch them get destroyed. Because they told them beforehand that they shouldn’t stop their fight.

[Lance98]

How is he a softy ? He didn't quit and he begged for more.

There are many ways to be soft. You can be a KO artist, but still be soft in other ways with weakness and vulnerabilities.

[Mmann2e]

I happen to agree with a lot of what you have to say. Wilder could bring anybody in to train him but he must be disciplined and willing enough to follow their instructions. I agree you can take a horse to the river but you can't make him drink unless he wants to.

Also, you are right about Mark Breland. He was only doing his job by trying to preserve Wilder's career and health but most importantly his life.

In addition, I concur with your assessment that Jay Deas is a piece of shit. He doesn't give two dips about Deontay Wilder the man. All he cares about Deontay making money for him even at the expense of costing him his boxing career and life. Wilder should immediately fire his ass and Shelly Finkel too.

However, I think your overall criticism is a bit harsh with a bunch of racist tropes and overtones in it when you question Deontay Wilder's intellectual capacity. If that was indeed the case, then why are the greatest boxers of all-time are Black; If they lacked the intellectual capacity to be great?

Wilder has the aptitude to improve his boxing ability but he must be ready and willing in order to do so. It all begins and ends with him. He has to want it for himself.

He has surrounded himself with a bunch of Yes men who are only in it for the money who are telling him only what he wants to hear. Remember that boxing was never Deontay Wilder's calling in the first place. He only took up the sport later in life in order to raise money for his ailing daughter.

With all things being equal; I think he made a pretty good name and living for himself for a boxer with very limited skills, amateur pedigree and with no affinity for the sport or its rich history whatsoever.

His only professional loss of his career has come at the hands of the greatest heavyweight boxer in the history of the sport; Tyson Fury. Whom he arguably knocked out in their first bout.

Well you have to remember as Jay Deas and Shelly Finkel are the co-managers of Wilder, his future earning are connected to them. He could fire them and go to court but with little time left that would possibly destroy his earnings and he'd be a ballroom fighter afterwards. Wilder's social media is under control of PBC and Finkel so that "your king is here speech" doesn't happen and because Mark Breland damaged the "I only need to be good for two seconds" line he was going to get the axe. And Wilder knows everytime PBC pr team has to come clean-up an interview, tweet, or post, he will have to pay a fine out of his purse. So Wilder knows that PBC, Finkel and Haymon want to get out with some money, Deas is looking to cash out and use his gym to find the next prospect and he has a make or break fight, he has to do something. And unfortunately, Breland who messed up by saving Wilder but would've helped the business had he got knocked out or referee stoppage got canned. Wilder will be next come fight night.

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[Squared.Circle]

I happen to agree with a lot of what you have to say. Wilder could bring anybody in to train him but he must be disciplined and willing enough to follow their instructions. I agree you can take a horse to the river but you can't make him drink unless he wants to.

Also, you are right about Mark Breland. He was only doing his job by trying to preserve Wilder's career and health but most importantly his life.

In addition, I concur with your assessment that Jay Deas is a piece of shit. He doesn't give two dips about Deontay Wilder the man. All he cares about Deontay making money for him even at the expense of costing him his boxing career and life. Wilder should immediately fire his ass and Shelly Finkel too.

However, I think your overall criticism is a bit harsh with a bunch of racist tropes and overtones in it when you question Deontay Wilder's intellectual capacity. If that was indeed the case, then why are the greatest boxers of all-time are Black; If they lacked the intellectual capacity to be great?

Wilder has the aptitude to improve his boxing ability but he must be ready and willing in order to do so. It all begins and ends with him. He has to want it for himself.

He has surrounded himself with a bunch of Yes men who are only in it for the money who are telling him only what he wants to hear. Remember that boxing was never Deontay Wilder's calling in the first place. He only took up the sport later in life in order to raise money for his ailing daughter.

With all things being equal; I think he made a pretty good name and living for himself for a boxer with very limited skills, amateur pedigree and with no affinity for the sport or its rich history whatsoever.

His only professional loss of his career has come at the hands of the greatest heavyweight boxer in the history of the sport; Tyson Fury. Whom he arguably knocked out in their first bout.

I'm only gonna respond to one point you made because I stopped reading after I saw the word "racist"; what has race got to do with anything I said? I didn't correlate his low IQ to his race at all, you randomly jumped to that conclusion lol I clearly said the reason I think he's intellectually challenged is because of every interview he's ever gave. I'll elaborate: the man makes up words, uses words in the wrong context and gets all excited and proud when he gives a half smart analogy that a 12 year old could come up with. On top of that, the only "ring IQ" he's ever shown was against Ortiz in the rematch, which was wrongly attributed. "That half step back and turning Ortiz onto the ropes"...Neh mate...Ortiz got complacent after completely outboxing Wilder in every round and threw footwork to the wind.

Racism...lol

[Bonduu]

His only professional loss of his career has come at the hands of the greatest heavyweight boxer in the history of the sport; Tyson Fury.

I agree with all your comments except that ☝��. Beating an old Wlad, Pianeta, highly overrated Wilder doesn’t make you a GOAT. He hasn’t even defended his belt once...To me he chickened out of a highly motivated Wlad in the rematch.

His record isn’t even as half as good as the Klitchko brothers, he needs to clear out the HW division to be considered a GOAT. The overhype is on a different level.