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  • ShoulderRoll
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    #161
    Originally posted by SugarRaRobinson
    Not sure, never been through the process, nor have I ever been a trainer, commissioned agent or professional boxer. So even if I agree with u that the process is as stringent as you state it is, that doesn't mean these rigors are adhered to tightly every time.

    What I will say is that where there's smoke there's usually fire. That being said Fury has a history of cheating in different ways. He also had a Hall of Fame ref say he's the dirtiest fighter he's ever officiated, and this ref has officiated Andrew Golata (But I guess the ref is racist).

    Furys sparring partner prior to the the Wilder fight said Fury was hitting so hard that it prompted him to take the gloves out the trash can after Fury left and claims he found massive padding missing from the gloves that fury discarded. (But I guess Wilder paid him to say that).

    Fury has a history of being pillow-fisted for a heavyweight but Wilder has dents in his skull according to his doctor. (But I guess Wilder paid his doctor a couple of extra bucks to make that up)

    Let's not even mention his multiple failed blood test in the past due to ******* and a performance enhancers. Do u realize how bias someone would have to be to ignore all of this checkered history from a fighter this dirty and staunchly proclaim his innocence ?
    If all this is true then Wilder shouldn't have an incompetent corner that doesn't know how to inspect gloves.

    Maybe he should send someone knowledgeable to Fury's locker room next time, instead of Jay Deas.

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      #162
      Originally posted by SugarRaRobinson
      Not sure, never been through the process, nor have I ever been a trainer, commissioned agent or professional boxer. So even if I agree with u that the process is as stringent as you state it is, that doesn't mean these rigors are adhered to tightly every time.

      What I will say is that where there's smoke there's usually fire. That being said Fury has a history of cheating in different ways. He also had a Hall of Fame ref say he's the dirtiest fighter he's ever officiated, and this ref has officiated Andrew Golata (But I guess the ref is racist).

      Furys sparring partner prior to the the Wilder fight said Fury was hitting so hard that it prompted him to take the gloves out the trash can after Fury left and claims he found massive padding missing from the gloves that fury discarded. (But I guess Wilder paid him to say that).

      Fury has a history of being pillow-fisted for a heavyweight but Wilder has dents in his skull according to his doctor. (But I guess Wilder paid his doctor a couple of extra bucks to make that up)

      Let's not even mention his multiple failed blood test in the past due to ******* and a performance enhancers. Do u realize how bias someone would have to be to ignore all of this checkered history from a fighter this dirty and staunchly proclaim his innocence ?
      There's also a huge difference between being an egregious cheater and using dirty tactics. Mayweather, Roy Jones Jr., Andre Ward, Shawn Porter. All masters at dirty tactics, especially the last two. But when it comes to dirty tactics being evidence for cheating, the Wildettes conveniently forget the aforementioned names.

      That nonsense about Fury's sparring partner...just...LOL. You really think that if somebody removed padding from gloves in sparring that they'd just throw them in a bin in the gym for anybody to find? come on now. Where's the evidence that they were Fury's gloves? Because a guy made a video and said they were? Why would anybody remove the padding from gloves for a sparring session? Where's the benefit? What would he gain from removing the padding in a sparring session against a guy who's an absolute nobody and hasn't had a professional bout in about four years? It literally makes no sense whatsoever. Furthermore, you do realise padding is to protect the hands as much as it is to protect an opponent's face, right? You really think Fury is gonna risk breaking his knuckles in the lead up to the biggest fight of his career just to get one over on some no-name-career sparring partner? No. Just no lol

      The failed test for partying and going on a coke binge is absolutely irrelevant, especially when it was nearly a year after the Klitschko fight. And the nandrolone...well...if it was so clear cut, why did it take nearly two years for UKAD to "come to an agreement" and backdate a suspension? Regardless, there's no correlation between a failed drug test and removing padding from a glove. The whole "a cheat is a cheat" argument is just as ridiculous and feeble as "a criminal is a criminal"; just because a guy commits a crime such as driving while off his rocker on coke does not mean he's likely to go and **** a granny and steal her Werthers Originals. Just like a guy that has failed a (dubious) drug test isn't likely to go and remove padding from his gloves. It's the epitome of a straw man argument.

      But again, it's all irrelevant. The gloves were checked multiple times pre-fight and again post-fight. Fury gave negative results on all VADA tests and the gloves were legit. He pummelled Wilder fair and square. 2–0 to the Gypsy King.

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        #163
        Originally posted by The Big Dunn
        Imo a terrible move from wilder. Breland did the right thing. You shouldn’t make him the scapegoat.
        But I guess you need a new corner (Floyd perhaps selling the fight) in order to plausibly argue he has a chance against Fury because most knowledgeable fans understand he has but a punchers chance in the 3rd fight
        I agree , post is spot on ......

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          #164
          Originally posted by jonnyc420
          Yet you praise Wilder for what? Beating up 39 bums before running into a much better and much smarter boxer in Fury? Nothing racist about calling Wilder unintelligent in the ring, yet clowns like you find anything you don't agree with to be racist. You clowns throw that word around so often it's become a joke at this point. Fury is much more intelligent in the ring than Wilder, both fights showed that. Doesn't mean Wilder isn't an intelligent individual overall just means when it comes to boxing Fury is simply too good for your boy. Hell you ran away from making a deal with me over this. Sit down Excuses4ever
          I told you to admit that it was indeed Tyson Fury in those still images and to acknowledge that those dented, tampered, compromised and custom made green Paffen gloves with the fist prints pressed against them were emphatically genuine and that his left glove were not fitting all the way on his left hand in both fights then we will have a deal. However, you backed out of it at the 11th hour why? The deal is still on the table if you still want it. So what say you?

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            #165
            Originally posted by Squared.Circle
            Black girls have thick asśes, everybody knows that. It's a proven racial trait. Fat girls have a thick asś, everybody knows that. It's a proven fatties trait. So an obese black girl is gonna have a very thick aśs.
            Someone doesn't get out much. Just sayin

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              #166
              Smart move. Wilder needs Robert Garcia in his corner. He'd take him to the next level.

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              • BoZz
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                #167
                Mark Breland most likely saved this idiots life and he gets fired while his coach Kevin didn't/couldn't even teach him how to throw a proper jab and/or how to move properly and he still has his job. This Dosser is a fkn dosser..hope Fury finishes him for good in the next fight, would be a good ridance...no respect for bums who blame their costumes, trainers for their lack of skills.

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                • joe strong
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                  #168
                  Originally posted by NC Uppercut
                  I agree with ya Joe. I believe that Teddy has done it with old fighters before, he has the motivation down pat. Green K for ya
                  The only issue with Atlas is he is like milk. He has an expiry date. Eventually his hard a** ways get tiresome for a fighter & they tuned him out & fire him (Michael Moorer) or he chooses to part ways as the fighter just won’t dedicate himself completely (Shannon Briggs). He told Moorer to retire before the Tua fight (they were not together anymore) & Moorer got crushed in a minute. Briggs came out on ESPN after the Okine fight & told Teddy live on the air that he was right & he didn’t work hard enough. Teddy wanted Briggs to stop his music endeavours & dedicate himself 100% to the sport. Briggs refused & got knocked out by Wilson. Teddy dumped Briggs.

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                    #169
                    Originally posted by Lance98
                    There are many ways to be soft. You can be a KO artist, but still be soft in other ways with weakness and vulnerabilities.
                    Ok, explain them.

                    For most unbiased fight fans, getting in the ring, AND BEATING, many top guys is the opposite of soft.

                    Some so called fight fans think knocking out 10 bums a month is the shlt

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                      #170
                      Usually I agree with what you say

                      It is now time to make the list of yes men that everyone claims is around him

                      Please finish the list

                      1.

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