According to most ppl here Lopez is not on Lomas level nor ready....

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  • siablo14
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    #11
    Originally posted by kidbazooka
    Right?

    So if Loma beats him he shouldn’t get much credit right because according to most here lopez is too green not ready for Loma so it shouldn’t mean much correct?

    And if Lopez beats him then Loma really looks like crap because he lost to a green Lopez who was never on his “level”.

    You guys better stick to what your saying come the 17th.

    I don’t wanna hear crazy praise for beating a guy Loma should have beaten easily all along.

    Lopez is unproven and has zero wins over elite level.
    Red - Even if Lopez is prime, he can't beat the prime version of Loma.

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    • Jubei
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      #12
      Of course he is ready, he just beat a legit champ at the weight, he is young, undefeated, fast, just entered his prime. He does not have that much experience, but thats not always bad because he will take more risks which is necessary to win vs somebody like Loma.

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      • BoxingIsGreat
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        #13
        There'll be a lot of excuses coming your way when Lopez wins: Age, injuries, past prime, inactivity. Wouldn't be surprised if it is Lomachenko's last fight. Where can he go from here, and who will care? It's a must-win for him.

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        • el_mas_chingon
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          #14
          Originally posted by kidbazooka
          Right?

          So if Loma beats him he shouldn’t get much credit right because according to most here lopez is too green not ready for Loma so it shouldn’t mean much correct?

          And if Lopez beats him then Loma really looks like crap because he lost to a green Lopez who was never on his “level”.

          You guys better stick to what your saying come the 17th.

          I don’t wanna hear crazy praise for beating a guy Loma should have beaten easily all along.

          Lopez is unproven and has zero wins over elite level.
          And who has Loma beaten that is at this ‘Elite’ level your speaking of?


          And Loma may have more amateur experience but their both at the exact same pro experience 15 pro fights each, Loma has done a lot in the same amount of fights but also has taken an L in the process which Lopez hasn’t!

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          • CauliflowerEars
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            #15
            Originally posted by tritium_arma
            Most people? Did you count every single person? There are a lot of people who think Lopez will beat him.
            Loma is damned if you do damned if you don't. If he wins, you will say it's because Lopez was too green. If he loses you'll say Loma is overrated.
            All of this 100%...^
            I was thinking to myself, ("Most people? Hmmm. I'm not sure I've heard anyone call Lopez a bum")
            If someone did call him a "bum" or tried to discredit him in any way, it was probably just an effort to insult him because they didn't like his attitude.

            We have to use discernment and consider human behavior when we read these boards. Much of it is only trash-talk and I'm inclined to think the OP is just chiming in with some of his own trash-talk, which is also fine. It's part of fandom.

            I mean anything can happen in a fight, despite the odds. That's why they actually have the fights and don't just put them on paper. We live for the upsets. No matter how much you like Lomachenko, you can't deny the excitement of a young punky Lopez getting a KO and taking the crown.
            Somebody has to be favored, right ? What if the odds makers said, "Hey Lomachenko is really just a hype-job so let's make Lopez the favorite"? Would that make the Loma critics happy ?

            Eventually Loma will decline, probably sooner than later. What then ? Good riddens to the hype-job - now we can get back to some real boxing ? People often complain about the hype. Isn't that boxing ? Hype a fight, then fight. Hype a fighter, then fight. Hype a champion, hype a challenger, hype, hype hype - promote, promote, promote. "Oh so n so is being hyped too much.. and so n so can't get any credit" Yada yada yada.

            You're right tho, damned if you do damned if you don't. The threads about this fight that I've seen have most fans saying they are just looking forward to the fight. Show me where somebody says Teofimo is a bum and I'll explain to you exactly why they said it. Nobody thinks Lopez is a bum. But if you are picking LOMA to win this fight, you gotta have some reasoning, right ? If asked, what's your explanation for the prediction ? I picked Commey to beat Lopez. Does that mean I thought Lopez was a bum ? Does that mean Commey was a hype job ? Linares been getting knocked out lately. What's that make him ?

            I dunno I expect Loma to win, but if he gets upset that's excitement and that's boxing. It can happen, I don't care how good you are. I guess we'll find out October 17th.....that is, unless Lopez chickens out - bawk bawk bagahhht bawk bawk -----


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            Last edited by CauliflowerEars; 10-01-2020, 06:57 PM.

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            • Dean_Razorback
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              #16
              but who is on loma's level though? not many.

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              • BoxingIsGreat
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                #17
                I don't think Loma is even close to being the best fighter in the world (highly subjective). For those who do, will a Lopez win crown Lopez the same? Not a chance. He can lose his next fight to a bum.

                Personally, if I were talking to Lopez after this win, I'd say: "Cong****, a good start, but I need to see a lot more." Loma isn't a be-all. He should top Salido and KO this guy.
                Last edited by BoxingIsGreat; 10-01-2020, 07:32 PM.

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                  #18
                  Originally posted by Ogecca MaMa
                  TS among with others were blaming Loma for ducking this young guns. now they are trying to twist things carefully..
                  What’s the twist? Everything said on OP was logical and made sense. Loma will be a huge favorite going into the fight yet some are lying and pretending that this is a 50-50 fight. A 50-50 fight means that the odds are even and people are generally split who’s going to win. Loma’s supposed to win this fight.

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                  • BoxingIsGreat
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                    #19
                    Originally posted by Goldie
                    What’s the twist? Everything said on OP was logical and made sense. Loma will be a huge favorite going into the fight yet some are lying and pretending that this is a 50-50 fight. A 50-50 fight means that the odds are even and people are generally split who’s going to win. Loma’s supposed to win this fight.
                    Well, there are many detractors like me who really haven't gotten the memo on Loma's 'greatness,' who think he had some careful matching at TR, along with some corrupt positioning with the crooked belt organizations. Which great fighter has he beaten?

                    Loma is a good fighter like Lopez is a good fighter. Nothing beyond that.

                    I pick Lopez by KO within 8 rounds.
                    Last edited by BoxingIsGreat; 10-01-2020, 08:06 PM.

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                    • Satir
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                      #20
                      skill by skill and experiencewise Teo's not on Loma's level but he has them equalizing factors such as youth, size and power

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