Comments Thread For: Chisora: Tyson Fury Has Promised Me A Third Fight; He Owes It To Me

[BirdSong]

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[JakeTheBoxer]

I respect Chisora, but lets be realistic. Usyk will retire him.

[Kezzer]

He is, whether you count his retirement or not.

If you count his retirement, he is lineal based on beating Wilder when both were ranked in the top 2 by TBRB, The Ring, ESPN, etc.

If you don't count his retirement then he is still lineal based off his win over Klitschko.

Beating wilder? Wtf you on about! As if that counts when AJ was sat with 4 of the 5 belts !

[famicommander]

Beating wilder? Wtf you on about! As if that counts when AJ was sat with 4 of the 5 belts !

Belts are irrelevant to the lineal title discussion.

The WBA, WBC, IBF, WBO, and IBO don't rank the best fighters in the division. They rank fighters that are following specific paths towards their own belts, and they don't rank the champions of other governing bodies (the big 4 ignore the IBO but that's the only one that is ranked by any of the others; the IBO doesn't rank the big 4 and the big 4 don't rank each other).

Joshua got knocked out by a light puncher whose previous best win was Siarhei Liakhovich in a 10 round decision. Wilder blew up a younger, better version of Liakhovich in less than a round and left him a twitching mess on the canvas:


Liakhovich has been knocked out by:
Maurice Harris
Shannon Briggs (for the WBO title)
Robert Helenius
Bryant Jennings
Deontay Wilder
Simon Kean (who?)

But Ruiz couldn't finish him. But he did finish Joshua.

None of the credible sources that rank the entire division best to worst (TBRB, The Ring, ESPN) had Joshua ahead of Wilder before Wilder vs Fury II. They were seen as the two best fighters in the division.

So again, Fury is the lineal champion. Either by way of beating Klitschko or, if you consider his retirement legitimate, then by winning a fight of the #1 vs the #2. Only Joshua fanboys had Joshua ranked ahead of Wilder or Fury at that time.

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No need for this. Then again, he's giving Wilder a third fight(sadly, bc of contractual obligations) even when the first two weren't even remotely competitive. Chisora was more competitive than Wilder in both of his losses to Fury. Regardless, Fury is levels above both of these guys combined.

That is patently false. I think Fury won the first Wilder fight but the fact is he was knocked down twice, and in the second fight Wilder arguably won a round. I'd have to rewatch the first Chisora fight, it's been a while but I've seen Fury/Chisora II multiple times and it was a completely flawless masterclass - like a man sparring with a toddler.

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[Kezzer]

Belts are irrelevant to the lineal title discussion.

The WBA, WBC, IBF, WBO, and IBO don't rank the best fighters in the division. They rank fighters that are following specific paths towards their own belts, and they don't rank the champions of other governing bodies (the big 4 ignore the IBO but that's the only one that is ranked by any of the others; the IBO doesn't rank the big 4 and the big 4 don't rank each other).

Joshua got knocked out by a light puncher whose previous best win was Siarhei Liakhovich in a 10 round decision. Wilder blew up a younger, better version of Liakhovich in less than a round and left him a twitching mess on the canvas:


Liakhovich has been knocked out by:
Maurice Harris
Shannon Briggs (for the WBO title)
Robert Helenius
Bryant Jennings
Deontay Wilder
Simon Kean (who?)

But Ruiz couldn't finish him. But he did finish Joshua.

None of the credible sources that rank the entire division best to worst (TBRB, The Ring, ESPN) had Joshua ahead of Wilder before Wilder vs Fury II. They were seen as the two best fighters in the division.

So again, Fury is the lineal champion. Either by way of beating Klitschko or, if you consider his retirement legitimate, then by winning a fight of the #1 vs the #2. Only Joshua fanboys had Joshua ranked ahead of Wilder or Fury at that time.

Wilder vs Fury was only #1 bw #2 in some people’s opinion. It wasn’t universal. There whole point about lineal is that it is a very clear person who is now ranked #1 which then fights. That hasn’t and won’t be the case until they have fought Joshua. End of.

On a side note : since when was espn credible ? I may aswell ask dazn Or sky sports what their ranking list is ?

[Griever0730]

That is patently false. I think Fury won the first Wilder fight but the fact is he was knocked down twice, and in the second fight Wilder arguably won a round. I'd have to rewatch the first Chisora fight, it's been a while but I've seen Fury/Chisora II multiple times and it was a completely flawless masterclass - like a man sparring with a toddler.

That's your opinion and you're entitled to it. The fact remains, neither guy was competitive at all against Fury. Aside from the two knockdowns, Fury dominated Wilder every other round they fought. Even after the knockdowns, Fury dominated most od those rounds also when he got back up IMO. He put on a master-class on both guys in both fights against them. You wanna be specific, in their first fights, they both gave Fury issues yet still got handled easily. In their second fights, Fury beat em both like they stole something and both corners threw in the towel. He is just levels above those guys. Simple as that.