Does Jermell Charlo REPLACE Errol Spence on P4P list?

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  • Combat Talk Radio
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    #21
    Originally posted by boogbx
    I got him top 15 not quite top 10.

    I got

    Loma
    Canelo
    Chocolatito
    USYK
    Crawford

    Top 5 set in stone for me.

    After that you got Inoue, Nery, Estrada, Navarrete, Berchelt, Pacquiao, Spence in no order and I know I’m forgetting some other fighters.

    Charlo is good but a win over Andrade or Sanders would help. Sergey was good but you can tell the last few fights took a toll even if slight.
    Choco? After getting beat TWICE in a row by Srisaket, once by brutal knockout?

    I'm not even going to comment on Usyk. 'Eye test' elite. He's worse than Crawford in my eyes.

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      #22
      Originally posted by revelated
      Choco? After getting beat TWICE in a row by Srisaket, once by brutal knockout?

      I'm not even going to comment on Usyk. 'Eye test' elite. He's worse than Crawford in my eyes.
      usyk beat 4 top 5 guys and jermell just beat his first while also losing to an unranked opponent in harrison. how is jermell above usyk? oh yeah the "eye test" like you said

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      • Luilun
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        #23
        No he beat a 5 foot 5 brawler with no head movement or defensive skills

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        • boogbx
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          #24
          Originally posted by revelated
          Choco? After getting beat TWICE in a row by Srisaket, once by brutal knockout?

          I'm not even going to comment on Usyk. 'Eye test' elite. He's worse than Crawford in my eyes.
          He got knocked out in the rematch but I felt he clearly won the first time but didn’t get the nod.

          Also he just won the title back from Yafai who was favored going in.

          As for USYK I just feel he is more Proven And is scheduled to fight somebody worth a damn in Chisora a top 10 hw.

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            #25
            Originally posted by Mister Wolf
            Probably. Notice how almost all of the guys rated high on the P4P list are individuals that moved up in weight. Its means something to the people that make these lists. Errol Spence along with Thurman moved down from junior middle to weightbully welterweight and if they move up back up will look just as ineffective as Luis Nery did yesterday.
            Yeah but the guy that Nery fought was a HUGE Super Bantham AND he was good!

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              #26
              Originally posted by Mister Wolf
              Its been 13 years since I've seen Jermell Charlo's Pro debut and he is still in the same weight class and just now a unified champ. Did Roy Jones, Delahoya, Trinidad, Mosely, Mayweather, Pac, Cotto, Alvarez, Crawford, and Loma spend 13 years fighting in the same weight class?
              Man I don't give a damn about that smoke and mirrors political low key trying to keep your fighter away from certain other fighters weight jumping ****, only the quality of opponents that they have faced. Nobody knocks Marvin Hagler or Kostya Tszyu for never leaving their respective weight classes. Boxing has always been about who you beat, not how many belts you racked up that's why this era of boxing is so damn watered down and weak.

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                #27
                Originally posted by boogbx
                He got knocked out in the rematch but I felt he clearly won the first time but didn’t get the nod.
                "At the end of the day", who's hand was raised in both fights...?

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                  #28
                  Originally posted by revelated
                  "At the end of the day", who's hand was raised in both fights...?
                  Touché but remember this is my opinion and that argument is like saying Iran Barkley is superior p4p over Tommy Hearns because he beat him twice?

                  Not at all.

                  Remember p4p is body of work and current ranking.

                  P4p Chocolatito is top 5, I got him 3 behind Loma and Canelo.

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                    #29
                    He certainly made my top 10 pfp best with this good win added to his overall excellent record and how good he fights. I had Spence very high on my list and I won't lower him unless he looks sub par in his next fight. Crawford is the guy I am lowering on my list and dropping below newcomers Beterbiev and Jermall on my personal pound for pound best list. The boxers you hate and trash so much, Loma GGG, Jermall, and Spence will now all be on most pfp top 10 best lists. This must make you very sad. Don't cry Al.

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                    • boliodogs
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                      #30
                      I had Usyk on my list when he was the unified cruiserweight champ. But he is a heavyweight now and I think he should be rated as a heavyweight. As a heavyweight I don't think he rates anywhere near top 10 best pfp. I don't have any heavyweights on my list and I think some heavyweights can beat Usyk so he is not on my own list. That is just my opinion. Every fight fan has a right to their own pfp list arranged any way they want. You can't prove this pfp stuff in most cases so it is mostly just opinions anyway.

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