Does Jermell Charlo REPLACE Errol Spence on P4P list?

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  • boogbx
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    #11
    I got him top 15 not quite top 10.

    I got

    Loma
    Canelo
    Chocolatito
    USYK
    Crawford

    Top 5 set in stone for me.

    After that you got Inoue, Nery, Estrada, Navarrete, Berchelt, Pacquiao, Spence in no order and I know I’m forgetting some other fighters.

    Charlo is good but a win over Andrade or Sanders would help. Sergey was good but you can tell the last few fights took a toll even if slight.

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    • daggum
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      #12
      Originally posted by boogbx
      I got him top 15 not quite top 10.

      I got

      Loma
      Canelo
      Chocolatito
      USYK
      Crawford

      Top 5 set in stone for me.

      After that you got Inoue, Nery, Estrada, Navarrete, Berchelt, Pacquiao, Spence in no order and I know I’m forgetting some other fighters.

      Charlo is good but a win over Andrade or Sanders would help. Sergey was good but you can tell the last few fights took a toll even if slight.
      thread starter said jermell not jermall

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      • Dallas' 4 Eva
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        #13
        Crawford got P4P #1 consideration going undisputed against Thomas Dulorme, Viktor Postol, and Julius Indongo; yet Jermell Charlo can't even crack the top 10 when Tony Harrison is a better fighter than all 3 of them that I just mentioned, low key so is Erickson Lubin. Aight bruh I'ma let y'all cook.

        I just looked at the ring rankings and Charlo definitely should be on that list if you have Estrada, Golovkin, Beterbiev, and Usyk(why is Usyk still on this list he has done jack **** since going undisputed).

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        • Mister Wolf
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          #14
          Originally posted by Dallas' 4 Eva
          Crawford got P4P #1 consideration going undisputed against Thomas Dulorme, Viktor Postol, and Julius Indongo; yet Jermell Charlo can't even crack the top 10 when Tony Harrison is a better fighter than all 3 of them that I just mentioned, low key so is Erickson Lubin. Aight bruh I'ma let y'all cook.

          I just looked at the ring rankings and Charlo definitely should be on that list if you have Estrada, Golovkin, Beterbiev, and Usyk(why is Usyk still on this list he has done jack **** since going undisputed).

          Its been 13 years since I've seen Jermell Charlo's Pro debut and he is still in the same weight class and just now a unified champ. Did Roy Jones, Delahoya, Trinidad, Mosely, Mayweather, Pac, Cotto, Alvarez, Crawford, and Loma spend 13 years fighting in the same weight class?

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            #15
            Both Charlos have a better resume and career than Crawford, I know that much.

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            • Fists_of_Fury
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              #16
              Originally posted by daggum
              because he beat a journeyman who was coming off an upset win?
              Crawford is P4P so why not? You can argue that Jermell has a better top win on his resume than Crawford lol. We are in an extremely weak era. Lomachenko got beat by a washed up journeyman and he's P4P too...

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                #17
                Originally posted by Fists_of_Fury
                Crawford is P4P so why not? You can argue that Jermell has a better top win on his resume than Crawford lol. We are in an extremely weak era. Lomachenko got beat by a washed up journeyman and he's P4P too...
                rosario is better than everyone crawford beat? is that what you are saying? the guy was a journeyman who beat williams. the name baldomir ring a bell? crawford beating jeff horn alone is far better than rosario. jeff horn beat manny pac. is julian williams some amazing fighter? lets look at his fights against live competition: destroyed by charlo, very very close fight where he was wobbled many time against ishe smith, destroyed by rosario, and dominating win vs hurd. is hurd better than manny pac?

                you can argue indongo, postol, gamboa, horn, burns, beltran are all better than rosario or at worst on a similar level so yeah i cant compare 6 good wins to one.

                lomachenko dominated russell jr who went on to be #1 at 126, dominated walters, beat the #1 guy at 135 and just beat 4 top 5ish guys in a row at 135. i dont see charlo doing that? he lost to harrison who was unranked. salido was ranked #2 when he beat loma. the revision of history is laughable. he was washed up yet ranked #2? ok...guess rosario was washed up too since he was ranked #2.
                Last edited by daggum; 09-27-2020, 09:35 PM.

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                  #18
                  Originally posted by Dallas' 4 Eva
                  Crawford got P4P #1 consideration going undisputed against Thomas Dulorme, Viktor Postol, and Julius Indongo; yet Jermell Charlo can't even crack the top 10 when Tony Harrison is a better fighter than all 3 of them that I just mentioned, low key so is Erickson Lubin. Aight bruh I'ma let y'all cook.

                  I just looked at the ring rankings and Charlo definitely should be on that list if you have Estrada, Golovkin, Beterbiev, and Usyk(why is Usyk still on this list he has done jack **** since going undisputed).
                  cept he's not. harrison wasnt even ranked when he beat charlo. postol and indongo were the top 2 guys in the division. postol for example just gave ramirez and taylor very close fights. harrison got ko'd by everyone before beating charlo. pretty silly. now was 140 weak when crawford was there? pretty good argument but is 154 not weak? rosario was ranked #2 so yes

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                  • Combat Talk Radio
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                    #19
                    Originally posted by Dallas' 4 Eva
                    If anything he would replace Crawford.
                    This is the correct answer. But of course, Crawford never should be on the list in the first place, so

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                    • Divine Hammer
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                      #20
                      my top ten p4p

                      1. lomachenko
                      2. fury
                      3. usyk
                      4. beterbiev
                      5. pacquiao
                      6. josh taylor
                      7. golovkin
                      8. juan francisco estrada
                      9. wanheng menayothin
                      10. roman gonzalez

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