Comments Thread For: Jermall Charlo-Sergiy Derevyanchenko - Official Scorecards

[Fire4231]

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Lol... objectivity that’s Rich, you clearly struggle with the definition. Your opinions differ from everyone outside of your Mysterious band of 20 people. Do you not know there are many thousands of individuals on this site? Isn’t it strange you only agree with 20?

However let’s not forget, you also differ from the judges, the global boxing analysts, boxing writers and even the fighters themselves. Notoriously close fights are blow outs for GGG.

But some how you are steadfast that you are the only one offering the truth? Yes sir the diagnosis is complete. You are quite delusional.

So take those 19 other accounts you have created and check your Sybil Simon @ss into the nearest clinic. You are clearly a danger to yourself and society.

Who knows what happens to you when GGG actually retires. Because believe me he will not continue to take these round by round beatings, DAZN has been able to “financially,” change into wins.

GGG is indeed a good fighter but overrated by HBO/ ESPN and company. He is no where near the top 25 in the past 25 years. That is the statement that set Mr. Sensitivity off. In closing Prime Arthur Abraham would have been a 50/50 fight.


LMAO What are those!!! Biased Polls bro? How are you going to post two polls with links from two European sites... Then post a personal poll created by some boxing scene member... Man stop already...

https://www.boxingnewsonline.net/pol...olovkin-fight/

7300 votes. Just one such poll. Basically the same as any other though. 80% say GGG won the first fight. 10% draw and 10% Canelo win.

What did the judges say bro... I will wait. What did the announcers say? What about boxing rec?

Either way the Biased polls presented prove my point. Why... Because we are not discussing who won fight number one. It was called a draw. We are discussing whether the fight was close enough to be called either way. Because the biased polls presented from European sites and specific Boxingscene fans aren’t 100% they shows these fights were not the blow outs you and your 20 accounts imagined it to be.
GGG - Jacobs - only one I could find. GGG 70% Jacobs 30%. And that is saying something considering how some people will give a GGG opponent the win if the fight just goes 12 rounds. Hell I'm talking to one of those types right now. What did the boxing experts say. Conducting polls is like running fighter elections. Jacobs could have knocked out GGG and 70% of GGG’s fans would still say he lost. We saw that in Ward vs Kovalev 2. You are one of the guys that will just not let the culture take the loss to an outsider. Keep it real on that.

https://www.*************.com/thread...ho-won.583620/

GGG-Canelo 2

GGG-75-25
GGG-60-30

https://thetylt.com/sports/canelo-al...in-ii-2-result

https://www.boxingscene.com/forums/s...d.php?t=792542


As for your opinions about GGG as a fighter, you are entitled to your opinions. I happen to disagree and think he was one of the best of the last 20 years, quite clearly. And just as clearly is one of the best to ever lace them up at 160. Great fighter with many great attributes and few holes. Should be appreciated a lot more.

Yep I am entitled to my perspective... yet here we are two weeks later. Still going Schooling grown as men on not perspective Man Tran. Yet some how you quoting me on my perspective and waisting time is unbiased and non-emotional. No clown we can tell you aren’t really smiling. Luckily I ham having fun terrorizing you’re man team crush with the most brutal facts. What else you got slow train.

If he wasn't that good, someone would have beaten him badly in his career, and one of the many 'solid' fighters he faced would have challenged him...as we see with basically any fighter who has 10-15 fights vs solid pros. They end up dropping a few or having some questionable calls.
Last edited by Boxing-1013; Today at 02:43 PM. One more time... The man lost every step up fight besides the draw, only fought one rematch with Canelo and has been ducking every boxer puncher with legs. Yes he beat some decent fighters and cherry picked many fights in between that.

You are struggling broski. What’s next, eye witness accounts from GGG’s grandmother? Let’s see what the Mexican sites say about the second fight with Canelo? Bet they didn’t even need a poll to accept the results. That’s what happened here in the state’s.

[TonyGe]

Lol... now the whole site is against you agenda based Man Tran. You are contradicting everyone including@TonyGE. You are by in far one of the dumbest guys on this site. No wonder you are having a hard time fitting in.

Since I'm Tony GE and we're talking about the first fight FYI he's not contradicting me. Canelo lost the fight. Open your eyes.

[TonyGe]

The ggg bait troll is back.
#1 hater of facts and personal opinion. Who cares if the facts don't support his opinion. He just states his opinion s as truth.

No you're entitled to your own opinion. After all this is a boxing forum. However your opinion is out of touch with reality. Go watch the first fight again and maybe just maybe you can put your biases aside for once in your life.

[Fire4231]

OK so now we are saying the judges never get it wrong, and that they never had bad cards, we never have corruption in the sport? That's fine if that is your view, but keep it consistent. Wait... Did a GGG fan just rant about corruption and bad judges? This dude just received a nicely wrapped gift against Derevychenko? Yet you are still complaining about GGG vs Canelo #1? You know they had a second fight? When is GGG going to give a disputed victory a rematch? Not like he is fighting anyone important anyway?

Every body hates the corruption game until it benefits them in the sport. To fix boxing you have to get rid of these tired @ss fans who don’t want a fair sport. They just want there guy to keep winning. Quote me on that one. It will make you sound credible.

“That means Chavez beat Sweet Pea, and GGG beat everyone except Canelo once”.

The truth comes out... smoking gun alert

And the one draw. Which even you acknowledge had a terrible card in that fight, in Canelo's favor.

Deal... I will give you the possibility that GGG won the first Canelo fight since you have all but stated GGG got favorable decision against Jacobs and Derevychenko. But Canelo won the second fight hands down.

[Fire4231]

Since I'm Tony GE and we're talking about the first fight FYI he's not contradicting me. Canelo lost the fight. Open your eyes.

TonyGe... Bro you realize this trail is recorded right? Some how your short term memory is being outclassed by your defensive ego? Let me help you understand...

Casual Fan Equation
Short-Term Memory/Defensive Ego = Imagination Squared

Your quote and your contradiction to man tran #2 is below.

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Originally Posted by Fire4231 View Post

TonyGe Quote:

“The only fight I and a lot of other people had him losing is the Derevyanchenko fight. For a fighter that's well past prime that's a very good result. I don't know if it's intentional or not but you just don't get it.”

Man tran#2 says GGG never lost a fight? Maybe you guys should have a conference call to make sure you both move to the smell of the same ****ed up BS?

[Fire4231]

LMAO- The circus must be in town. These clowns just keep showing up hopping out the tiny GGG auto bus Boxing-1013 TonyGe.

[NC Uppercut]

i think most of us, that are realistic, have realized that golovkin is past it and on the real tail end....but hes still pretty good which is sort of impressive(and ive always been a very harsh critic of him)

he really only fought chenko because canelo told him to go get a belt...and he thought chenko was the lowest hanging fruit...it was him or andrade and we know golovkin doesnt want any part of a black, athletic, southpaw with pedigree that andrade has....

it was def a good test, the first good one, for charlo...hopefully charlo does eubank next then maybe danny(i think he has 1 fight left on matchroom deal)....then who knows

charlo/golovkin is never going to happen....golovkin is chasing one more canelo check and he will not take a tough/competitive fight from here on out without it....golovkin vs andrade/charlo would likely end up in embarrassment for golovkin at this point(who knows maybe im wrong) imo....which is too bad because golovkin wasted much of his career/prime....yeah he gets some points for the manner he defeated much of his resume...but his resume still stinks for the most part and we never really found out just how good he was

Pretty much this ,,,/\. Except I wanna see him and Danny ASAP. That beef has been brewing too long

[Boxing-1013]

TonyGe... Bro you realize this trail is recorded right? Some how your short term memory is being outclassed by your defensive ego? Let me help you understand...

Casual Fan Equation
Short-Term Memory/Defensive Ego = Imagination Squared

Your quote and your contradiction to man tran #2 is below.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Fire4231 View Post

TonyGe Quote:

“The only fight I and a lot of other people had him losing is the Derevyanchenko fight. For a fighter that's well past prime that's a very good result. I don't know if it's intentional or not but you just don't get it.”

Man tran#2 says GGG never lost a fight? Maybe you guys should have a conference call to make sure you both move to the smell of the same ****ed up BS?

You are really weird man.

I had it 6-6 live. So can't be mad at anyone for having it 7 rounds for Derevy. It was a close fight. On rewatch I think GGG did a bit better than initially perceived by me, and had it 7-5 GGG but the first time you watch it is the only score that counts.

[Boxing-1013]

Deal... I will give you the possibility that GGG won the first Canelo fight since you have all but stated GGG got favorable decision against Jacobs and Derevychenko. But Canelo won the second fight hands down.

Your reading comprehension and analysis is quite poor. GGG outlanded Canelo by 30 punches, winning 8-3-1 in rounds more or less by punch count, in fight 2. Anyone giving Canelo more than 5 rounds in that fight doesn't know how to score a fight. Canelo did better but he still only got 4 rounds, just like the first fight.

Try grading fighters and fights regardless of how you feel about a fighter. You come into this stuff with over the top woman energy man. It's weird and kind of suspect. Like how do you call yourself a man with the agenda that you have lol. It's pathetic little fella.

[Boxing-1013]

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Originally Posted by Fire4231 View Post
Lol... objectivity that’s Rich, you clearly struggle with the definition. Your opinions differ from everyone outside of your Mysterious band of 20 people. Do you not know there are many thousands of individuals on this site? Isn’t it strange you only agree with 20?

However let’s not forget, you also differ from the judges, the global boxing analysts, boxing writers and even the fighters themselves. Notoriously close fights are blow outs for GGG.

But some how you are steadfast that you are the only one offering the truth? Yes sir the diagnosis is complete. You are quite delusional.

So take those 19 other accounts you have created and check your Sybil Simon @ss into the nearest clinic. You are clearly a danger to yourself and society.

Who knows what happens to you when GGG actually retires. Because believe me he will not continue to take these round by round beatings, DAZN has been able to “financially,” change into wins.

GGG is indeed a good fighter but overrated by HBO/ ESPN and company. He is no where near the top 25 in the past 25 years. That is the statement that set Mr. Sensitivity off. In closing Prime Arthur Abraham would have been a 50/50 fight.


LMAO What are those!!! Biased Polls bro? How are you going to post two polls with links from two European sites... Then post a personal poll created by some boxing scene member... Man stop already...

https://www.boxingnewsonline.net/pol...olovkin-fight/

7300 votes. Just one such poll. Basically the same as any other though. 80% say GGG won the first fight. 10% draw and 10% Canelo win.

What did the judges say bro... I will wait. What did the announcers say? What about boxing rec?

Either way the Biased polls presented prove my point. Why... Because we are not discussing who won fight number one. It was called a draw. We are discussing whether the fight was close enough to be called either way. Because the biased polls presented from European sites and specific Boxingscene fans aren’t 100% they shows these fights were not the blow outs you and your 20 accounts imagined it to be.
GGG - Jacobs - only one I could find. GGG 70% Jacobs 30%. And that is saying something considering how some people will give a GGG opponent the win if the fight just goes 12 rounds. Hell I'm talking to one of those types right now. What did the boxing experts say. Conducting polls is like running fighter elections. Jacobs could have knocked out GGG and 70% of GGG’s fans would still say he lost. We saw that in Ward vs Kovalev 2. You are one of the guys that will just not let the culture take the loss to an outsider. Keep it real on that.

https://www.*************.com/thread...ho-won.583620/

GGG-Canelo 2

GGG-75-25
GGG-60-30

https://thetylt.com/sports/canelo-al...in-ii-2-result

https://www.boxingscene.com/forums/s...d.php?t=792542


As for your opinions about GGG as a fighter, you are entitled to your opinions. I happen to disagree and think he was one of the best of the last 20 years, quite clearly. And just as clearly is one of the best to ever lace them up at 160. Great fighter with many great attributes and few holes. Should be appreciated a lot more.

Yep I am entitled to my perspective... yet here we are two weeks later. Still going Schooling grown as men on not perspective Man Tran. Yet some how you quoting me on my perspective and waisting time is unbiased and non-emotional. No clown we can tell you aren’t really smiling. Luckily I ham having fun terrorizing you’re man team crush with the most brutal facts. What else you got slow train.

If he wasn't that good, someone would have beaten him badly in his career, and one of the many 'solid' fighters he faced would have challenged him...as we see with basically any fighter who has 10-15 fights vs solid pros. They end up dropping a few or having some questionable calls.
Last edited by Boxing-1013; Today at 02:43 PM. One more time... The man lost every step up fight besides the draw, only fought one rematch with Canelo and has been ducking every boxer puncher with legs. Yes he beat some decent fighters and cherry picked many fights in between that.

You are struggling broski. What’s next, eye witness accounts from GGG’s grandmother? Let’s see what the Mexican sites say about the second fight with Canelo? Bet they didn’t even need a poll to accept the results. That’s what happened here in the state’s.

You have a rather warped sense of reality my friend. Not sure how you get by in life with such off-logic.