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  • buddyr
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    #11
    Originally posted by Boxing-1013
    GGG-Canelo 2

    Jabs
    GGG 118
    Canelo 59

    Power Punches
    GGG 116
    Canelo 143

    Charlo-Derevy

    Jabs
    Charlo - 85
    Derevy - 17

    Power punches
    Charlo - 134
    Derevy - 163

    I'm sure everyone who scored that fight for Canelo scored this one for Derevy lol

    Just teasing but yeah it's funny
    please don't ever post compubox numbers as to why someone won a fight. It's been proven that system is bs. It's never been accurate and the count is always off. If you want to argue why someone won a fight, cool, but using compubox stats is not the way

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      #12
      Originally posted by buddyr
      please don't ever post compubox numbers as to why someone won a fight. It's been proven that system is bs. It's never been accurate and the count is always off. If you want to argue why someone won a fight, cool, but using compubox stats is not the way
      I'd say usually compubox gets it more or less right. Citing those numbers when they back up what you see is helpful, as it pretty much says 'hey this is why I scored this fight how I did - guy A outlanded guy B by 10 punches in this round, that's about what I saw. That's a clear round.'

      But yeah I don't always co-sign what compubox says. Charlo-Derevy is a good example actually. And Horn-Pacman too. That fight was much closer as far as punches landed than what compubox showed.

      Originally I posted those numbers to playfully mock those who said Canelo clearly beat GGG and Charlo clearly beat Derevy when they fought opposite roles with (seemingly) similar punches.

      Punches do matter, but yes the punches YOU count matter, not compubox.

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        #13
        Originally posted by Boxing-1013
        I'd say usually compubox gets it more or less right. Citing those numbers when they back up what you see is helpful, as it pretty much says 'hey this is why I scored this fight how I did - guy A outlanded guy B by 10 punches in this round, that's about what I saw. That's a clear round.'

        But yeah I don't always co-sign what compubox says. Charlo-Derevy is a good example actually. And Horn-Pacman too. That fight was much closer as far as punches landed than what compubox showed.

        Originally I posted those numbers to playfully mock those who said Canelo clearly beat GGG and Charlo clearly beat Derevy when they fought opposite roles with (seemingly) similar punches.

        Punches do matter, but yes the punches YOU count matter, not compubox.
        compubox is and has always been trash. It's never accurate. Even in fights that are one sided. We don't use compubox to justify why someone won a fight. Compubox is someone pressing a button when what looks like a punch landed. It's been proven for years.

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          #14
          Originally posted by buddyr
          compubox is and has always been trash. It's never accurate. Even in fights that are one sided. We don't use compubox to justify why someone won a fight. Compubox is someone pressing a button when what looks like a punch landed. It's been proven for years.
          And sometimes, probably more often than not, the people pushing the button get it more or less right...A lot of times the numbers back up what I see, round by round, so I will use them in those cases. GGG-Canelo fights, GGG-Jacobs come to mind.

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            #15
            Man, its sad what happened to the GGGtards since the second Canelo fight.
            They wander aimlessly in woe, lost, looking for purpose until the time comes to return home, turn on the tv and hum to each other hymns of servitude when the time comes for Golovkin to give his disciples' lives' meaning when he goes up against might of the likes of the mighty Kamil Szeremeta.

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              #16
              Originally posted by glenn mcrory
              Man, its sad what happened to the GGGtards since the second Canelo fight.
              They wander aimlessly in woe, lost, looking for purpose until the time comes to return home, turn on the tv and hum to each other hymns of servitude when the time comes for Golovkin to give his disciples' lives' meaning when he goes up against might of the likes of the mighty Kamil Szeremeta.
              I mean there are a lot of people out there who don't know how to score fights. But if anyone gave Canelo 6 rounds in either fight, they just have no idea what they are looking at, or worse, are just filling out their cards beforehand. You seem like one of the latter.

              Idgaf who wins a fight, except that the better man on the night should get his hand raised.

              And I definitely dgaf if GGG officially 'won' either fight. I and most others saw him win both lol. And he got paid very well for his troubles and his zeroes. That's how it works in boxing. Anyone saying any different is dealing with a room temperature IQ Glenn.

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                #17
                Originally posted by Boxing-1013
                I mean there are a lot of people out there who don't know how to score fights. But if anyone gave Canelo 6 rounds in either fight, they just have no idea what they are looking at, or worse, are just filling out their cards beforehand. You seem like one of the latter.

                Idgaf who wins a fight, except that the better man on the night should get his hand raised.

                And I definitely dgaf if GGG officially 'won' either fight. I and most others saw him win both lol. And he got paid very well for his troubles and his zeroes. That's how it works in boxing. Anyone saying any different is dealing with a room temperature IQ Glenn.
                According to you Golovkin has never lost a fight, so I'll take what some troGGGlodyte with a grain of salt over what I see happen with my own eyes.

                Maybe when he officially retires you guys can do something useful like actually watch other fighters. Maybe you'll actually learn how to score stuff that isn't stuff Golovkin needs to do to win fights only.

                But I doubt it, you'll either hang off the nuts of some other eastern euro or you'll stop watching boxing altogether.

                Either way I'll be here to hand you your bottle when you start crying again.

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                  #18
                  Originally posted by Boxing-1013
                  Side note - I just watched the actual fight. I have no idea what some people are seeing with saying Charlo dominated or even dominated with the jab. He hardly scored throughout the fight. Was definitely in the fight though but it was close. Sergei gets 0 respect lol
                  He gets my respect. He took a tremendous beating last night and made it out alive. But he didn’t win the fight though.

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                    #19
                    Originally posted by glenn mcrory
                    According to you Golovkin has never lost a fight, so I'll take what some troGGGlodyte with a grain of salt over what I see happen with my own eyes.

                    Maybe when he officially retires you guys can do something useful like actually watch other fighters. Maybe you'll actually learn how to score stuff that isn't stuff Golovkin needs to do to win fights only.

                    But I doubt it, you'll either hang off the nuts of some other eastern euro or you'll stop watching boxing altogether.

                    Either way I'll be here to hand you your bottle when you start crying again.
                    Why are you so emotional though lol. Yeah I haven't seen him lose a fight. That's not some crazy opinion. He has never been outlanded in a fight. The only time it was close with punches landed was with Derevy. And what do you know, that was a close fight and his closest fight. I had it 6-6 live and 7-5 for GGG on rewatch.

                    I don't know if you know this 'Glenn'...but punches landed is a big part of who wins a fight. Crazy isn't it.

                    You obviously have a serious anti-GGG lean, and I'm sure you hate some other fighters just as strong, and probably love others just as strongly. You're a fan, enjoy it.

                    But as emotional as you are, I mean why would anyone take your analysis seriously. You're like a spoiled child.

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                      #20
                      Originally posted by Outwest Exp 355
                      He gets my respect. He took a tremendous beating last night and made it out alive. But he didn’t win the fight though.
                      Lol what rounds did you give each guy? His face was marked up but idk about a tremendous beating. Y'all are something else. Like the stuff y'all hype up, I just don't get it at all.

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