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Almost everyone was listening to the commentary talking about Charlo's wonderful life altering jab while Dervy was inside hitting him in the ribs with combos. The bias was very apparent. I did not see the domination at all. It all depended on who you wanted to give close rounds to...Comment
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Well that's not how I saw it. I don't know what else people want me to say lol. Sometimes people just parrot narratives and talking points, in order to not ruffle feathers, especially when they don't really care about the situation. That seems to be the case of what is going on here, more or less. Some people just have no idea what they are watching and will go with the established narrative.
And then a high percentage of people who watched the fight will be giving Charlo as many rounds as possible anyway. I take no note of any scores like that from any people like that. A very high percentage of people on here, and in the media etc, couldn't score a fight fairly between their guy and another guy to save their life.
I don't really care either about the fight, but I'm not going to say I saw something I didn't see.Comment
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Larry for one, you know that just because two situations are similar, it does not mean they are exactly the same. There is nuance.
Also I didn't see Charlo's jab landing all that often. And I certainly didn't see it bouncing Derevy's head back like GGG's does. Derevy did mark up on the eye so you have to assume Charlo was touching him up, and I gave him a round for that when it was a 50/50 type round, once I saw the damage on Derevy.
I would strongly disagree with those punch stats based on what I saw last night, just as I disagreed with Ward/Bika and Pac/Horn for example.
I feel like people were scoring shots for Charlo any time he landed at all on Derevy...meaning a light tap on his gloves or hitting his shoulder. Which are not scoring punches. That's the only thing I can come up with as to how people are saying he was landing all these punches.
Like this clean punching I kept hearing about, where was that. Charlo fought well but he got outworked towards the end. No real shame in that, that's Derevy's MO. It was a good fight.Comment
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I watched without sound but I have to think that there was some type of heavy commentary bias with Charlo. Which then maybe affected how people scored the fight. It enabled those who like Charlo to score it heavily in his favor and have some recourse. And it seems to have swayed a lot of others as well, who want to appear like they are objective and just going with the established narrative.
I was fully expecting to see Charlo dominate at times in this fight and to have clearly won, based on what I was hearing. But I didn't see that when I watched. Not sure how anyone else did either.Comment
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That narrative is squashed though when you realize that some people, like myself, actually just watch the fights and score it independent of who looks more like us etc. Not all of us on here have such little self-esteem that we have to try and prop up guys that look like us, or down guys who don't, to make ourselves feel better.
The funny thing is that guys like y'all are so transparent, that I can tell your reaction to every fight before it even happens. If you guys have ANY opportunity to say that your guy won, then you will back that horse and continue with that narrative.
For example I bet you and your other buddies in here have these basic narratives 'Ward-Kovalev 1 was close; Ward definitely cleanly won fight 2; Jacobs beat GGG or it was really close; Rigo wasn't even a good win for Loma, he was too small; Walters wasn't a good win, he was too inactive, not that good.'
I saw Floyd beat Manny 8-4. I saw him beat JLC the first time, 7-5, I could maybe see 6-6. I saw Wilder get 5 rounds in the first Fury fight for a draw. I thought Loma was basically tied with Linares before the KO etc etc etc.
I was fully expecting to see Charlo dominate and clearly win, based on what I was reading. I was eager to watch the fight and see how impressive his performance was, to try and then compare him to the other top guys in and around 160. But then I watched the fight, and I mean, I have no idea what y'all are fawning over.
Like anyone who has ever watched a fight before could tell it was a close, tense fight, pretty much the whole way. And I felt Sergei quite clearly took it at the end. Last 4 rounds were pretty clear, for each man.
Y'all think EVERYTHING is about race man, it's gotta be an awful way to live lol.
Side note- Charlo is not some A level boxer like Tommy Hearns or Ray Leonard. Why you all of the sudden think that he won 8 clean rounds or something against a really good boxer when he has always had tough enough fights rd by rd with guys like that, I mean idk how you can even really convince yourself of stuff like that.Comment
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