Ortiz jr. and Boots are still learning

[JakeTheBoxer]

Some people suggest they should fight guys like Kavaliauskas and Porter. Hell no, they are not ready at all. Funny, how people say Porter is nothing special, but he won every round beating Formella, who is higher level opponent than S. Vargas or Abreu, for sure. It is fine to sympathize young prospects, but some of you are giving them too much credit too early. Kavaliauskas would maybe struggle badly with Ortiz jr. and Boots, but Porter beats them easily. This kids still need to develop their game.

[SplitSecond]

I’d have more faith in Vergil Ortiz if he wasn’t being trained by Robert Garcia who I consider a mediocre trainer. Damn it. Hope I’m wrong, too much negativity in my blood right now.

Not to say he wont be an awesome fighter and still get some good wins, just think Garcia can’t bring out the potential to create a star. He teaches everyone the same sht, it’s all about hands up, jabs Etc, fundamentals and being predictable. Don’t see Ortiz being the force he could be just wrecking fools.

[Eastlos]

Some people suggest they should fight guys like Kavaliauskas and Porter. Hell no, they are not ready at all. Funny, how people say Porter is nothing special, but he won every round beating Formella, who is higher level opponent than S. Vargas or Abreu, for sure. It is fine to sympathize young prospects, but some of you are giving them too much credit too early. Kavaliauskas would maybe struggle badly with Ortiz jr. and Boots, but Porter beats them easily. This kids still need to develop their game.

Don't bunch Vergil in with Boots. Ortiz has actually fought decent competition his last 4 fights stoping all of them by KO. Unlike Boots, Vergil also gets some of the best sparring on a daily basis in RGBA w/t the likes of Mikey Garcia, Jose Ramirez, Josesito Lopez etc... as the old saying goes “Iron sharpens iron”. Right now, Vergil KO’s mean machine in the later rounds. As for Porter, I bet on Vergil by decision as Porter style is tailor made for Ortiz, he loves fighters who come forward like Porter does. Not to mention Porter chin is suspect as he’s been knocked down by the likes of Broner a career 135 lbs.

[HTown Killer]

Well with ennis he does need to step up the comp like one of u guys said vergil has been fighting contenders at least now. Yea with garcia vergil is gonna lack on defense if he were to come up against spence, thurman, pacquiao, an crawford. I feel he would be in 50/50 fights with porter an danny garcia

[Get em up]

I'm as impressed with Boots as I am Vergil but both have a long way to go. I see Vergil getting a title shot first because of GBP but I think both guys are future champions

[dan_cov]

Both would utterly wipe the floor with Kavaliauskas. Why not have them fight Porter worst case is they lose a S.D type fight and they're still very young. They'd learn more from fighting Porter than they would knocking out a constant streak of no-hopers.

They both have good amateur pedigrees, let them off the chains! They're levels above the opposition they're fighting. Too many stick around fighting this level of competition for way too long and become stagnant.

[Ca$ual Fan]

Feed Jeff Horn to either of these guys. That would be a perfect stepping stone. Perfect punching bag to pad their KO streak plus a high profile opponent

[Zaryu]

It would be a risk because they're inexperienced, but they're both talented enough to step up and do well in those types of fights.

[mxtali]

How do Mean machine and Porter get grouped together lol? I’d say there’s a level between MM and Porter. I’d favor them against MM. Porter, not so much.

[boliodogs]

Some people suggest they should fight guys like Kavaliauskas and Porter. Hell no, they are not ready at all. Funny, how people say Porter is nothing special, but he won every round beating Formella, who is higher level opponent than S. Vargas or Abreu, for sure. It is fine to sympathize young prospects, but some of you are giving them too much credit too early. Kavaliauskas would maybe struggle badly with Ortiz jr. and Boots, but Porter beats them easily. This kids still need to develop their game.

If they have good chins I think they have a good chance to beat Porter now especially Boots. Boots is faster and hits harder and is more accurate with his punches than Porter and he averages just as many punches a round as Porter does. if they fought I would pick Boots to win, as slowly as they bring these guys along they will certainly have a few more fights before they fight a Crawford or Spence or a Porter.