Ortiz jr. and Boots are still learning

[sicko]

neither need to be rushed

I would like to see Boots vs Custio Clayton who is Top 5 by the WBO and IBF and both Undefeated and trying to get to that next level so them in a IBF or WBO Eliminator would be Perfect

As for Vergil Ortiz, I think he is ahead of Boots as far as being more tested vs better opponents so I think he is more ready to jump in with the top guys at 147

[MeanestNiceGuy]

I love Ennis but I'm not a huge fan of prospects with contender records (20+ fights in) and the need for them to step up.

The number of fights indicates that he's had a lot of pro fights but he's yet to face a formidable opponent. No biggie but slow the kid down and get him better fights.

Guys like Canelo came into the mainstream with what, over 30 fights? Thing is, they moved Canelo like he was supposed to be moved so we saw progress in each fight. I'll be watching Ennis...gotta love Philly fighters!

[Richard G]

Feed Jeff Horn to either of these guys. That would be a perfect stepping stone. Perfect punching bag to pad their KO streak plus a high profile opponent

Pac thought the same easy meat thing.

[BLASTER1]

If they have good chins I think they have a good chance to beat Porter now especially Boots. Boots is faster and hits harder and is more accurate with his punches than Porter and he averages just as many punches a round as Porter does. if they fought I would pick Boots to win, as slowly as they bring these guys along they will certainly have a few more fights before they fight a Crawford or Spence or a Porter.

I agree.
Boots is ready for a top10 opponent, i believe he would beat Porter aswell and if he dont its not a huge deal he just resets and climbs his way up the ladder again.
Boots needs a shot against any of the top welters at the moment.

[JakeTheBoxer]

I agree.
Boots is ready for a top10 opponent, i believe he would beat Porter aswell and if he dont its not a huge deal he just resets and climbs his way up the ladder again.
Boots needs a shot against any of the top welters at the moment.

He beats a bum like Abreu, who was not even in shape and he is ready for top 10 ww now?

[BLASTER1]

He beats a bum like Abreu, who was not even in shape and he is ready for top 10 ww now?

Its not just he beat him its how he beat him.

[Satir]

they still are, i think Yeleussinov with only 9 pro fights schools them both

[BoxingIsGreat]

I’d have more faith in Vergil Ortiz if he wasn’t being trained by Robert Garcia who I consider a mediocre trainer. Damn it. Hope I’m wrong, too much negativity in my blood right now.

Not to say he wont be an awesome fighter and still get some good wins, just think Garcia can’t bring out the potential to create a star. He teaches everyone the same sht, it’s all about hands up, jabs Etc, fundamentals and being predictable. Don’t see Ortiz being the force he could be just wrecking fools.

Well thought out post. I agree.

Maybe Garcia has reached his ceiling as a trainer. He's pretty bitter these days too. I guess we are all bitter these days!

Personally, I'm still not sold on either Ortiz or Ennis. Maybe they should fight each other.

Green K.

[BoxingIsGreat]

I agree.
Boots is ready for a top10 opponent, i believe he would beat Porter aswell and if he dont its not a huge deal he just resets and climbs his way up the ladder again.
Boots needs a shot against any of the top welters at the moment.

Me too. I don't think much of Porter.

[JakeTheBoxer]

Its not just he beat him its how he beat him.

Lol. Eye test. Still only prospect level guy. Porter stops him brutally.