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Why did Mike Tyson duck Ray Mercer?
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- -He didn't.
Post prison Tyson signed to use Mercer as a tune up for Lewis who sued.
Net result is Lewie sweetened the pot so he could fight an unprepared Tyson.
Boxing 101
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Originally posted by BangEM View PostThat would've been a great fight but it's funny how Mercer fought Lennox and Holyfield back to back but somehow didn't fight Mike Tyson.
Also, Mike Tyson also somehow escaped fighting Moorer, Tommy Morrison, Tua and Bert Cooper. Shocking, isn't it?
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Originally posted by Hooded Terror View PostI lived through the period and remember it well. There were multiple moving parts. Tyson was already long a superstar and in rebuild mode after Douglas. Holyfield held the crown and the expectation was that Tyson and he would clash. Meanwhile, there was a mild clamor for Bowe/Mercer which fizzled and gave way to Mercer/Morrison. While this was happening you had Ruddock decapitating 80's names like Dokes and Lewis steadily gaining experience defeating Mike Weaver. Larry Holmes seemed revived with his surprise win over Mercer, about the time Tyson gave us two high stakes wins over the streaking and dangerous Razor Ruddock. Back then nobody was crying about Tyson's path to redemption, nor was there any call for a Mercer bout. Enter Desiree Washington and Jesse Ferguson.
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I guess Mercer would've beat him if they fought after Lennox, but it wouldn't mean much because a lot of heavyweights would've beat him at that point in his career.
More exciting would've been a battle against Foreman in 1990, or fights with Bowe and Ibeabuchi in the mid-to-late 90s.
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Originally posted by BangEM View PostBut he could've fought him after Lennox. Mercer didn't retire until mid-2000s.
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I lived through the period and remember it well. There were multiple moving parts. Tyson was already long a superstar and in rebuild mode after Douglas. Holyfield held the crown and the expectation was that Tyson and he would clash. Meanwhile, there was a mild clamor for Bowe/Mercer which fizzled and gave way to Mercer/Morrison. While this was happening you had Ruddock decapitating 80's names like Dokes and Lewis steadily gaining experience defeating Mike Weaver. Larry Holmes seemed revived with his surprise win over Mercer, about the time Tyson gave us two high stakes wins over the streaking and dangerous Razor Ruddock. Back then nobody was crying about Tyson's path to redemption, nor was there any call for a Mercer bout. Enter Desiree Washington and Jesse Ferguson.
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Originally posted by deathofaclown View PostI agree with this part, even though I’m a fan
He was a very exciting fighter and obviously notorious for everything surrounding him. He’s a great highlight reel KO fighter and the casual fans idea of the best.
The reality is like you say, he rarely fought the best and come up short when he did.
He’s not one of the best HW’s of all time, no matter how much attention he drew for boxing.
He is probably one of the most important fighters in history but not one of the best
Be honest with yourself, and sort it out.
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Originally posted by BKM- View PostI love how this guy puts his grammatical error in bold. As if to show it off So fitting that Tyson's fans are like this.
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Originally posted by BKM- View Post
It's true that Tyson fought in the strongest or second strongest HW era ever and barely fought the best, and the few he did face mostly beat him up. I don't rank Tyson as a top 10 ATG and many historians don't either.
He was a very exciting fighter and obviously notorious for everything surrounding him. He’s a great highlight reel KO fighter and the casual fans idea of the best.
The reality is like you say, he rarely fought the best and come up short when he did.
He’s not one of the best HW’s of all time, no matter how much attention he drew for boxing.
He is probably one of the most important fighters in history but not one of the best
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