Why did Crawford struggle vs Kavaliauskas?

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  • Boxing-1013
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    #11
    Originally posted by dan_cov
    What do you mean they're both fully pledged welterweights.
    I didn't see no size advantage? If anything Crawfords taller, longer and wider.
    Originally posted by 4truth
    true but how is that relevant?
    You guys do know what weight classes Crawford has been fighting at in his career, and then also at what weight class Kava has been fighting?

    As you move up the weights, it will be harder to dominate. You can destroy a good fighter at 135, dominate one at 140, and maybe struggle a bit with one at 147.

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      #12
      Because Crawford is more like Marvelous Marvin Hagler than Floyd Mayweather.

      He didn't just come into that fight to win, he came to fight. Once Mean Machine started cracking him with good shots, his pride demanded he put Kavaliauskas in the dirt.

      There are plenty of valid criticisms of Crawfords resume, career decisions, etc. But there's no denying the man is a throwback fighter.

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      • Mammoth
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        #13
        Originally posted by Boxing-1013
        Weight classes exist for a reason
        Bud is a legit welter. He's grown into the division.

        Against Kava he just wanted to fight. All it was.

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          #14
          Kavaliauskas is decent. He has good technique, super snappy jab, very strong and we just had a Kavaliauskas more patient than Crawford that night, and Kava used that to his advantaged with some nicely timed counter’s. Guy is very explosive. Major weakness though. Terrible stamina. I predicted that he’d get tired vs Crawford considering what I saw vs Robinson, and it makes sense that any elite beats him down the stretch due to that weakness. But he’s still very good when he’s fresh. But he also doesn’t like to fight because it causes him to gas, so again. Major weakness.

          What Crawford did was exactly the best way to beat Kavaliauskas. Which is what a lot of noobs don’t seem to get.
          Last edited by SplitSecond; 09-12-2020, 01:14 PM.

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            #15
            Because Crawford is not levels better like some of you thought.

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              #16
              Originally posted by JakeTheBoxer
              Because Crawford is not levels better like some of you thought.
              On the flipside:
              Why did Crawford dominate someone like Postol?

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                #17
                Originally posted by Mammoth
                Bud is a legit welter. He's grown into the division.

                Against Kava he just wanted to fight. All it was.
                I think framewise Bud is/can be a legit 147 pounder. Can maybe even go above that and be a real 154 pound fighter.

                But he's always going to have been more dominant at the lower weights. That's how it always goes.

                Look at Floyd and Manny. Floyd has 2 legit KOs (Hatton and then Sharmba Mitchell if you want to count that) at 147 or above out of 14 fights. Below that he was at least a 50/50 bet to KO those types of fighters.

                Manny has 2 KOs in 17 fights at WW or above. Below that we all know he was much better.

                Crawford is a bigger guy than Manny definitely and probably even Floyd by one weight class.

                Crawford has looked fairly average relatively speaking at 147 vs fairly average competition there. But he has still gotten KOs in all 4 fights.

                Idk just makes sense to me. The guys are a little bit bigger and tougher at 147 and punch a little harder so it takes him a little longer to get them out of there and it is a little harder to dominate. Even if he is a legit 147 pounder now that would just mean he was bullying guys really at the smaller weights, which I think is probably somewhat accurate.

                I still think he is the best at 147 right now especially with Spence being a complete wild card now

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                  #18
                  Originally posted by SplitSecond
                  Kavaliauskas is decent. He has good technique, super snappy jab, very strong and we just had a Kavaliauskas more patient than Crawford that night, and Kava used that to his advantaged with some nicely timed counter’s. Guy is very explosive. Major weakness though. Terrible stamina. I predicted that he’d get tired vs Crawford considering what I saw vs Robinson, and it makes sense that any elite beats him down the stretch due to that weakness. But he’s still very good when he’s fresh. But he also doesn’t like to fight because it causes him to gas, so again. Major weakness.

                  What Crawford did was exactly the best way to beat Kavaliauskas. Which is what a lot of noobs don’t seem to get.
                  Yeah and that guy Kava is not a scrub either. He's a tough challenge for a lot of guys. Definitely no walkover

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                    #19
                    Originally posted by SplitSecond
                    On the flipside:
                    Why did Crawford dominate someone like Postol?
                    Because Postol didn`t come to fight.

                    Kavaliauskas is tough 147 dude, he won`t just try to survive 12 rounds.

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                      #20
                      The fight was like DeMarcus vs Mayweather. He fought overly aggressive and got touched.

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