What Makes Holyfield an ATG?

[REDEEMER]

- -Usyk been trumping him for awhile.

Usyk is good but trumping him at what ? Usyk hasn’t fought the guys Holyfield has and won’t until he meets an AJ a guy who can box and punch . Usyk cannot put punches together like Holyfield did and is not the counter puncher . Usyk can probably read guys better and make adjustments in the ring but he’s not the puncher Holyfield was either ,you don’t Trump Holyfield unless you obtain a heavyweight title. Officially he’s won one fight where Holyfield has become an ATG at heavyweight .

[QueensburyRules]

Usyk is good but trumping him at what ? Usyk hasn’t fought the guys Holyfield has and won’t until he meets an AJ a guy who can box and punch . Usyk cannot put punches together like Holyfield did and is not the counter puncher . Usyk can probably read guys better and make adjustments in the ring but he’s not the puncher Holyfield was either ,you don’t Trump Holyfield unless you obtain a heavyweight title. Officially he’s won one fight where Holyfield has become an ATG at heavyweight .

- -BlahBlah.

Usyk 23-0 as heavy unified champ. 335-15 gold Olympic medalist.

Field 28-10-2 as heavy, never unified with a 10-7-2 title record and bronze in the Olympics, nice, but no cigar.

[daggum]

because he got robbed agaisnt valuev and valuev is the biggest human ever recorded in humanoid history

[QueensburyRules]

because he got robbed agaisnt valuev and valuev is the biggest human ever recorded in humanoid history

- -Not Robbed.

Niko patted his bald noggin and DKing slipped him $75k, the most $ he earned that year.

[boliodogs]

If you don't think he is an all time great then don't rank him as an all time great. you can do that. Nobody can tell you who is great. that is up to you. i think he is an all time great especially as a cruiserweight but he had his share of loses and Fat Toney knocked him out.

[deathofaclown]

He has perhaps the best resume of fights outside Muhammad Ali at heavyweight.

Obviously respect should be given for that, but how much does it go towards your greatness if you pretty much lost most of your big fights?

Nobody is saying Darnell Boone is great because he fought almost everyone. Obviously I’m not comparing him and Holyfield in terms of ability or levels.

[uppercut510]

surley you meant mike tyson right???

[richardt]

because he got robbed agaisnt valuev and valuev is the biggest human ever recorded in humanoid history

Robbed against a Humanoid and flattened by a Middleweight. He's lived a full life.

[richardt]

I like Holyfield but it's his shady side-kick named Evan Fields that has me concerned.

[famicommander]

Obviously respect should be given for that, but how much does it go towards your greatness if you pretty much lost most of your big fights?

Holyfield vs other world champions

W UD8 vs Tyron Booze*
W SD15 Dwight Muhammad Qawi
W TKO3 vs Rickey Parkey
W TKO11 vs Ossie Ocasio
W KO4 vs Dwight Muhammad Qawi
W TKO8 vs Carlos de Leon
W RTD7 vs Pinklon Thomas
W TKO10 vs Michael Dokes
W KO3 vs Buster Douglas
W UD12 vs George Foreman
W UD12 vs Larry Holmes
L UD12 vs Rid**** Bowe
W MD12 vs Rid**** Bowe
L MD12 vs Michael Moorer
W UD10 vs Ray Mercer*
L TKO8 vs Rid**** Bowe
W RTD5 vs Bobby Czyz
W TKO11 vs Mike Tyson
W DQ3 vs Mike Tyson
W RTD8 vs Michael Moorer
D SD12 vs Lennox Lewis
L UD12 vs Lennox Lewis
W UD12 vs John Ruiz
L UD12 vs John Ruiz
D UD12 vs John Ruiz
W TD8 vs Hasim Rahman
L UD12 vs Chris Byrd
L TKO9 vs James Toney
L UD12 vs Sultan Ibragimov
L MD12 vs Nikolai Valuev

Overall record: 19-9-2 vs opponents who won at least one world championship in their careers

*WBO champion but before the WBO was widely recognized