What Makes Holyfield an ATG?

[chirorickyp]

I'm struggling to see why people continue to mention Holyfield as an ATG when his resume isn't all that impressive. In all of his biggest fights, he either lost or looked unimpressive. His best opponents were whooping on him (Bowe and Lewis)

Barely beats 42 year old George Foreman
Barely beats 42 year old Larry Holmes
Loses twice to Rid**** Bowe
Loses to Michael Moorer
Beat a washed up post-prison Tyson
Loses to Lennox Lewis. Shoulda also lost the 1st matchup
Loses to John Ruiz
Loses to Chris Byrd

I see a lot of holes in his resume. He has one questionable win over Bowe, 2 wins over old greats, and 2 wins over post-prison Tyson. Decent resume, but that doesn't mean he should be discussed as a top 5 heavyweight.

First off he was juiced big time which helped him in the Foreman and Bowe fights especially. I give him credit for the Foreman victory. Foreman was dangerous and at his best in his 2nd career.
Bowe fights he showed courage but has no clear victory and was KO'd.
Lost to Moorer. Just a flat out loss.
Beat a still young but not the same machine in Mike Tyson. Impressive win no doubt. After 3 yrs in jail and out of the ring THIS WAS NOT THE SAME TYSON. He loses to Tyson in 1988 or 1989. Tyson wasn't the biggest Heavyweight either.
He lost 2 in reality to Lewis, however a prime Holyfield would have outworked or even to stopped that version of Lewis without Manny Steward.
The loss to James Toney was embarrassing. Toney was just better than him in the sweet science.

To me he was tough as hell, had the most exciting fights, has a great resume, great chin, threw great combinations, and was the guy you had to be at your best for because you were gonna go through hell.
He's an ATG. Too bad about the roids. Asterisk career just like Barry Bonds, McGuire etc.

[Luilun]

Try LH World Champion , the great Bob Foster failed going from LH to HW, in the day very few LHs were able to compete at HW let alone win the HW title 4 times.

If a guy doesnt understand what Evander has achieved he is newbie to boxing.

Forgot about that He's one of the best ever. The Real Deal name fit him cause he was the real deal