Did Anthony Joshua fight SCURRED in the Andy Ruiz rematch?

[Beercules]

Yeah that was pretty bad

[deathofaclown]

Yup, he fought scared, and he had a terrified look in his eyes all night, like a lamb caught in headlights.

The funny thing is, people thought Fury was going to fight totally cautious v Wilder because of those knockdowns. Yet he went at him.

That’s the difference between great fighters and decent fighters. Fury went and left no doubt and put on a big statement. AJ did what he had to do but nobody was impressed, especially considering how bad Ruiz looked. He never redeemed himself , even if he got his paper titles back.

[PRINCEKOOL]

The funny thing is, people thought Fury was going to fight totally cautious v Wilder because of those knockdowns. Yet he went at him.

That’s the difference between great fighters and decent fighters. Fury went and left no doubt and put on a big statement. AJ did what he had to do but nobody was impressed, especially considering how bad Ruiz looked. He never redeemed himself , even if he got his paper titles back.

Well take away Wilder's punching power, lets face it? Wilder is tailor made for Tyson Fury I.E Wide punches, movement is not great, no Jab and struggles to throw straight punches or short compact punches etc Tyson Fury is not exactly being challenged inside of the ring from a technical perspective 'Fury is more so being challenged in terms of managing his fear of being sparked out' etc

Fair enough Andy Ruiz Junior was not in the same condition as their first fight, but he was still a dangerous fighter 'I don't think Tyson Fury would just wade forward vs Andy Ruiz Junior ether'.

Anthony Joshua no matter how much people want to play him down 'Is not tailor made for Tyson Fury, he does not have the genius of Fury'. But he is not exactly this none entity like people are trying to make out 'Tyson Fury and his entire team are very aware of this'.

I want to see how Fury copes with being the overwhelming favorite, he has played the underdog in all of his top elite level fights 'And sometimes it is easier to play the underdog'.

[FannonOG]

Yup, he's a b1tch. He also ran from King Wilder.

[deathofaclown]

Well take away Wilder's punching power, lets face it? Wilder is tailor made for Tyson Fury I.E Wide punches, movement is not great, no Jab and struggles to throw straight punches or short compact punches etc Tyson Fury is not exactly being challenged inside of the ring from a technical perspective 'Fury is more so being challenged in terms of managing his fear of being sparked out' etc

Fair enough Andy Ruiz Junior was not in the same condition as their first fight, but he was still a dangerous fighter 'I don't think Tyson Fury would just wade forward vs Andy Ruiz Junior ether'.

Anthony Joshua no matter how much people want to play him down 'Is not tailor made for Tyson Fury, he does not have the genius of Fury'. But he is not exactly this none entity like people are trying to make out 'Tyson Fury and his entire team are very aware of this'.

I want to see how Fury copes with being the overwhelming favorite, he has played the underdog in all of his top elite level fights 'And sometimes it is easier to play the underdog'.

Fury is too mentally strong in the ring to let odds be a factor.

Joshua certainly has attributes that are tailor made for Fury. Heavy feet, predictable jab and movement.

Joshua cannot throw unless he can set himself. It’s one of his main flaws. He hasn’t got great boxing coordination between his feet and hands. You think a guy with the IQ and movement of Fury is going to let AJ set his feet then throw?

Fury will offset all him night, never let him get comfortable to throw and pick him apart.

[Ray*]

Well take away Wilder's punching power, lets face it? Wilder is tailor made for Tyson Fury I.E Wide punches, movement is not great, no Jab and struggles to throw straight punches or short compact punches etc Tyson Fury is not exactly being challenged inside of the ring from a technical perspective 'Fury is more so being challenged in terms of managing his fear of being sparked out' etc

Fair enough Andy Ruiz Junior was not in the same condition as their first fight, but he was still a dangerous fighter 'I don't think Tyson Fury would just wade forward vs Andy Ruiz Junior ether'.

Anthony Joshua no matter how much people want to play him down 'Is not tailor made for Tyson Fury, he does not have the genius of Fury'. But he is not exactly this none entity like people are trying to make out 'Tyson Fury and his entire team are very aware of this'.

I want to see how Fury copes with being the overwhelming favorite, he has played the underdog in all of his top elite level fights 'And sometimes it is easier to play the underdog'.

Very important to see this as well, and am not talking about being the favourite against the Otto wallin of boxing. Not sure why everyone is overrating Wilder's abilities, power? Absolutely, but he isn't exactly a boxer with major ring generalship.

[VatoMulatto]

I thought in the early and middle rounds he fought the kind of fight he should have but in the late rounds it was obvious that Ruiz was exhausted and there was very little chance of him hurting AJ and AJ still didn’t make an effort to impress

No matter how exhausted Ruiz was he can still punch. Why change something that is working? Why put yourself in a position where you give your opponent a shot to win? It was one punch that changed the first fight. Imagine AJ being more aggressive minded in the later rounds, start trading with Ruiz and gets caught and knocked out again.

People would've called AJ ****** for trying to prove something when he was winning pretty much every round. I gave Ruiz one single round. I can't complain about AJ's smart game plan. It wasn't entertaining but it was a very good performance that he was able to execute from start to finish.

[PRINCEKOOL]

Fury is too mentally strong in the ring to let odds be a factor.

Joshua certainly has attributes that are tailor made for Fury. Heavy feet, predictable jab and movement.

Joshua cannot throw unless he can set himself. It’s one of his main flaws. He hasn’t got great boxing coordination between his feet and hands. You think a guy with the IQ and movement of Fury is going to let AJ set his feet then throw?

Fury will offset all him night, never let him get comfortable to throw and pick him apart.

Can Tyson Fury still use movement like he used to deathofaclown? Again watch his last fight, he was marching forward and cutting off the ring 'Against a fighter who looked as if he was struggling with his own movement'.

Tyson Fury has not displayed the kind of movement YOU are talking about since Wilder I 'Since then he has not used the ring'.

I am going to say something abit out there right now 'I don't think at 270+ pounds this new version of Fury, comes with all the old tricks' I don't think he wants to fight like he did against Wladimir Kiltschko or Wilder I, because it forces him to change his physiological structure 'Forces him to train in certain ways, that I don't think he wants adhere to etc'.

But I believe that if Tyson Fury wants to do all the things, you are referring to against Joshua 'He has to change his training approach and physiological structure'.

If he fights Joshua like he has just fought Wilder 'He is making all the wrong moves'. Right now as we speak, if you are only as good as your last fight? Anthony Joshua has better movement than Tyson Fury.

[deathofaclown]

Can Tyson Fury still use movement like he used to deathofaclown? Again watch his last fight, he was marching forward and cutting off the ring 'Against a fighter who looked as if he was struggling with his own movement'.

Tyson Fury has not displayed the kind of movement YOU are talking about since Wilder I 'Since then he has not used the ring'.

I am going to say something abit out there right now 'I don't think at 270+ pounds this new version of Fury, comes with all the old tricks' I don't think he wants to fight like he did against Wladimir Kiltschko or Wilder I, because it forces him to change his physiological structure 'Forces him to train in certain ways, that I don't think he wants adhere to etc'.

But I believe that if Tyson Fury wants to do all the things, you are referring to against Joshua 'He has to change his training approach and physiological structure'.

If he fights Joshua like he has just fought Wilder 'He is making all the wrong moves'. Right now as we speak, if you are only as good as your last fight? Anthony Joshua has better movement than Tyson Fury.

Joshua hasn’t got better movement than Fury

And I’m not talking about dancing around the ring. I’m talking about educated feet.

Fury’s stance and balance against wilder was excellent, the way he could spring in and out of range equally as effective if required ,while keeping pressure on at all time. Even his feint and double step into the jab and right hand takes excellent coordination, much more than Joshua has ever shown. The only other heavyweight with that coordination to be able to stand in front of a puncher like that and have absolute fluidity between hands and feet is possibly Usyk, but we’ve never seen him at HW Properly.

If you are unable to see what Fury was doing then you probably should learn a bit more about boxing and footwork. It was top level stuff.

[Slimpack]

It's normal to be afraid of someone that beat you once. But I don't think AJ has any doubt in his mind that he was going to beat Ruiz in the rematch. He turned his fear into courage at the end. We have to respect him for that!