Why Didn’t Floyd give PAC rematch when he said “with one arm yes..” #Castillo

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  • Roadblock
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    #61
    The first reason is Manny was easy to beat and he never rematched guys that were easy to beat, he rematched the only two guys that brought a tough physical fight to him.

    The other reason is about honor where Manny lost and to try and save face made up a lame ass excuses that only came out after the dressing room meeting, right after the fight Manny told the truth when he said he wouldnt stand still so I could hit him not a fcking word about any shoulder BS that all came later. Instead of being an honorable man Manny went along with the PR team and came out crying like a woman with his head in his lap.

    After all Mannys BS from the original negotiation in 2010 and then beating him in the ring in cruise control, then having to listen to their lame excuses , Manny dont deserve a rematch

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    • EL_cano
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      #62
      Originally posted by Roadblock
      The first reason is Manny was easy to beat and he never rematched guys that were easy to beat, he rematched the only two guys that brought a tough physical fight to him.

      The other reason is about honor where Manny lost and to try and save face made up a lame ass excuses that only came out after the dressing room meeting, right after the fight Manny told the truth when he said he wouldnt stand still so I could hit him not a fcking word about any shoulder BS that all came later. Instead of being an honorable man Manny went along with the PR team and came out crying like a woman with his head in his lap.

      After all Mannys BS from the original negotiation in 2010 and then beating him in the ring in cruise control, then having to listen to their lame excuses , Manny dont deserve a rematch
      You speak highly of Mayfeather but yet Pacman is and will always be ranked higher in the atg list. Pacquiao still fighting and have not retired once to avoid any threats. When is all said and done Pacman will be the most accomplished fighter in terms of legacy. I remember 10 years ago when Historian Bert sugar had Henry Armstrong as his #2 atg list and Pacquiao being the Henry Armstrong of this era. DamN Son.

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        #63
        Originally posted by EL_cano
        You speak highly of Mayfeather but yet Pacman is and will always be ranked higher in the atg list. Pacquiao still fighting and have not retired once to avoid any threats. When is all said and done Pacman will be the most accomplished fighter in terms of legacy. I remember 10 years ago when Historian Bert sugar had Henry Armstrong as his #2 atg list and Pacquiao being the Henry Armstrong of this era. DamN Son.
        I remember Bert as an old wanker

        Manny will need to do more to rank higher than Floyd, when they were in the same era Manny didnt even get nominated against Floyd for FOTD. how can Pac possibly be higher when he cant beat him in his own era either in the ring or outside of of it as in head to head FOTD.

        Then add Floyd schooling the guy that KOed Manny and the class difference starts to show itself, then you got Manny losing 10% of his fights some to B graders and its clear he is just another head hanging of Floyds waistband, Floyd is just better with anything connected to boxing.

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          #64
          Originally posted by hugh grant
          Nelo would be favourite against Floyd in rematch but Floyd don't want the challenge.
          Who would think Joe Louis would do so well in the Ma x smelling rematch?
          Pac, nelo, dlh are the biggest names in Floyd's resume so why no rematch.? Floyd had home advantage so least he could do is give rematch if credibility is at all important

          But your not credible. You don't think there was any controversy in Pac v floyd fight?
          Floyd shut Canelo out and Nelo had a fifteen pound weight advantage in the ring.

          How much more of an advantage would Canelo have needed to have a competitive rematch? Have the rematch today at 168?

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            #65
            Originally posted by Al Broker
            Why doesn’t Pac get credit for not disclosing his injury? He helped everyone make money.

            If Floyd acknowledged his injured arm with Castillo, then why didn’t Floyd try and rob the bank for another huge rematch Payday.

            My point is about the money. If it was so “easy” nor would he care what industry or fans think, then why wouldn’t he take another staggering paycheck for the rematch?

            It doesn’t matter if PAC wanted to numb his body with Toradol because his shoulder, like Floyd’s against Castillo, it’s about not acknowledging an injured shoulder. Top Rank and TMT were afraid the the PAC fight would’ve been cancelled or postponed, so they went ahead with the fight.


            Another $100 for 2 old, out of prime fighters! because of the reach difference and fmw's ability to control distance, the outcome would be the same, salt water politican trying to jump and getting caught with counters for 12 boring rounds.

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              #66
              Originally posted by _Rexy_
              Floyd shut Canelo out and Nelo had a fifteen pound weight advantage in the ring.

              How much more of an advantage would Canelo have needed to have a competitive rematch? Have the rematch today at 168?
              Canelo never stipulated a weight even with post questions of a rematch theory. Canelo was getting those questions when he was still fighting at 155. He welcomed the rematched. You know that but pretending to be naive. Lol 168?

              Floyd wasn’t interested in Cotto’s Middleweight Lineal nor Canelo’s Lineal but claims those fights were easy. just like Marquez for 144 but changes his mind the day of the fight to 146. Floyd fools his own fans

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                #67
                Originally posted by hhh1200
                Another $100 for 2 old, out of prime fighters! because of the reach difference and fmw's ability to control distance, the outcome would be the same, salt water politican trying to jump and getting caught with counters for 12 boring rounds.
                This isn’t about the fight itself. This is about Floyd robbing another check. My theory is that something went down with Floyd’s IV. Severe dehydration for what? Walking in the desert of Vegas all day before the fight? Or trying to make weight? Lol.

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                • BodyBagz
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                  #68
                  The biggest why is why did Pac run away from random blood tests......

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                  • QueensburyRules
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                    #69
                    Originally posted by Roadblock
                    The first reason is Manny was easy to beat and he never rematched guys that were easy to beat, he rematched the only two guys that brought a tough physical fight to him.

                    The other reason is about honor where Manny lost and to try and save face made up a lame ass excuses that only came out after the dressing room meeting, right after the fight Manny told the truth when he said he wouldnt stand still so I could hit him not a fcking word about any shoulder BS that all came later. Instead of being an honorable man Manny went along with the PR team and came out crying like a woman with his head in his lap.

                    After all Mannys BS from the original negotiation in 2010 and then beating him in the ring in cruise control, then having to listen to their lame excuses , Manny dont deserve a rematch
                    - -U deserve to have JoyBoy run squallin' into U loving arms instead of his Daddy and Ellerbee.

                    Anyone thinking the fight was legit needs a brain transplant.

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                    • BattlingNelson
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                      #70
                      Originally posted by revelated
                      Smoke and mirrors.

                      Oscar wrote in the contract that Floyd had to take such a rematch "within the year" (2007). Oscar's OWN words.

                      He then turned around and happily co-promoted (HE was in charge) a mega fight with the top guy at Jr. welterweight (Ricky Hatton) because Oscar wanted the money AND to try and weaken Floyd to try and get an advantage, just like he did with Manny later.

                      Floyd fought Hatton on December 8th of 2007. There would have been no time for a fight with Oscar. That was all media nonsense to make it seem like Floyd ducked it.

                      Oscar then retires; Floyd says he's ready for a rematch. Oscar then says he's content staying retired:

                      There might be something with your timeline here that doesn't fit.

                      I remember an article in Ring Magazine where Oscar outlined his rematch with Floyd. After that Floyd retired.

                      The article was in this magazine:

                      https://boxrec.com/media/index.php/R...ine:_June_2008

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