Comments Thread For: Wilder Injured Bicep in Camp For Fury, Says Sparring Partner Fa

[KingGilgamesh]

Didn't rate him before, or after.



Fury was a cherry pick gone wrong.

How do you cherry pick someone twice?

You complete dumbass.

[Brother Mouzone]

[KingGilgamesh]

Social Media has truly ruined boxing.

Wilder is a true warrior despite what tabloids and haters may want you to believe.

Winners are sore losers, facts. No winner ever has been happy after a loss facts. Leave diplomacy for politicians.

As much as I love Warren Sapp he’s acted like a sucka after a loss, it’s natural. I’m not a Cam Newton fan but when Sapp talked chit about Newton’s behavior after a super bowl loss, Sapp forgets he was a raider.

That was def a pot and kettle situation.

As a man and true fight fan, I wish both Fury and wilder the best of luck and may the best man win.

Jesus in heaven, this.

[Kaspa9t9]

I heard he was pregnant which is why lost that one

[YoungManRumble]

Wilder is pretty low hanging fruit at this point. So I will just say during the fight I noticed Wilder pawing at his arm or doing something strange with it. Actually I looked up the RBR thread and one of my first comments I found in the RBR fight thread I commented:

https://www.boxingscene.com/forums/s...841201&page=12

Almost looks like Wilder hurt his bicep or something

Someone else noticing it too.

Why is Wilder holding his right arm like that?

Keep in mind I was never a Wilder fan though I was rooting for a spectacular KO of Fury, that obviously did not happen lol

[KingGilgamesh]

I don't know if Wilder did get injured in sparring before his fight with Fury. It's possible because he throws his punches from such crazy angles, and the surface of his fists land improperly on his opponents. I mean they land everywhere on his opponents, and his fist don't always land flush on the knuckles surface. I'm surprised that he hasn't suffered more injuries to his knuckles, wrist, elbows, and shoulders. I mean even his knees, and ankles, he is that awkward, his body parts are going in all different directions sometimes. His coordination needs extensive work, he's gotten by on power, decent speed, and recuperative powers. That said I have enjoyed watching his fights, as crazy as they were, he was effective. I didn't care for disrespectful outbursts towards his opponents, and his intimidating boxing reporters. One big su****ious issue with the Wilder, Fury rematch was Fury's gloves. Which were dented on the striking surface of the knuckles. Which was pointed out in a video of the fight by Boxing Ego on one of his podcast. Fury would mush his gloves together every chance he got, when there was a lull in the action, even pushing in the striking surface of his gloves on the top of his thighs while he was sitting on his stool, during the 60 second break in between rounds. His gloves were flat on the striking surface, while Wilder's gloves were round on the striking surface the way they're supposed to be. There was a concerted effort by Fury to push the horsehair from the striking portion of his gloves during the fight. Check out Boxingego's podcast on Fury's odd looking gloves.

Fury has a knack for using gloves which lend to a slight advantage in terms of distance between the fist and skin of the opponent. If anything, he's actually been accused of using odd gloves before by a sparring partner:

https://www.***************.net/2019...ry-tyson-fury/

However, even if we were to lend credence to the glovegate conspiracy, it still reflects poorly upon Wilder's team. Jay Deas was literally watching Fury wrap up and should have notified the commission if he thought anything untoward was happening. There was something I was reading to on this forum from a very astute Fury fan who put it perfectly, Tyson Fury is not only an exceptional boxing talent and an exceptional fighter but he is also an exceptional cheat, he knows how to manipulate the rules to his favour and he has shown just that in a number of fights. Wilder's fight preparation has been embarrassingly amateur so far and I don't know whether its testament to his sheer will or his teams incompetence. I lean toward the latter, why? Because we're so aware of his many excuses. Excuses among championship fighters isn't new or special, as someone mentioned, winners tend to be horrible losers. The average, out of shape, loser modern male wont be able to understand why someone who gets into the very lonely grind of boxing/MMA needs a way to rationalise getting physically dominated by another man but it makes perfect sense. What does annoy me is that someone isn't checking him on his nonsense.

One of the reasons why I am so partial to Wilder is because I actually think he's largely a one man train. He has practically no seasoned veterans in his camp, outside of Breland who was (rather ironically) the one who rightly threw in the towel. Unlike Fury who hails from a fighting family and Joshua who is still under the stewardship of Rob McCracken (whose storied success with both numerous GB olympians and Carl Froch, I was once ****** enough to undermine) Wilder seems to have largely made it here off of his own back...and its reflects itself in his shoddy fundamentals and haphazard footwork. I remember watching his olympic run in 2008 and barely anyone gave a **** then either. These endless unprofessional "explanations" speak to someone who doesn't seem to have a ton of people around him managing his PR.

I'm interested to see what happens next, but the talk of his need to retire after one fight is hilarious to me. But then it kinda speaks to the sorry state of modern men that one loss is seen as something worth ending a 10+ year career over. Only a ****ing loser with no achievements could legit write that with a straight face.

[Redgloveman]

How do you cherry pick someone twice?

You complete dumbass.

The cherry pick was the first fight. The rematch was considered to be a formality by many, owing to the heavy knockdown in the 12 round.

Fury was a near-perfect example of a cherry pick gone wrong, given how he looked prior to the first fight. He was brought in to be someone who could be sold to give some legitimacy to Wilder's weak resume.

For Fury to have gone 12 rounds given the state he was in when the first fight was made is pretty remarkable.

[KingGilgamesh]

The cherry pick was the first fight. The rematch was considered to be a formality by many, owing to the heavy knockdown in the 12 round.

Fury was a near-perfect example of a cherry pick gone wrong, given how he looked prior to the first fight. He was brought in to be someone who could be sold to give some legitimacy to Wilder's weak resume.

For Fury to have gone 12 rounds given the state he was in when the first fight was made is pretty remarkable.

So, once again...

How do you cherry pick someone twice???

Fury wasn't even a cherry pick the first time, he was the most legitimate fighter Wilder could have taken on outside of Joshua (who he campaigned heavily for). Let me guess, he should fought that bum Whyte who just got wiped out by a 40 year old??? Go on, convince me that Whyte was a better fight to aim for than Fury. Who would of been a bigger scalp than Fury?

There second fight wasn't a formality either. It was a poorly judged draw and was under no contractual obligation. Fury even left for Top Rank prior to the initial negotiations for the rematch, which was meant to take place in early-mid 2019.

Do you even know what cherry pick means you clown? Fury was already back fighting by the time the Wilder fight was announced. He only lost his initial titles due to getting popped and then took a hiatus. He was still largely considered the most talented guy in the division. The way so many of you muppets try and rewrite established history thats only about 2 years old.

[AdonisCreed]

The only reason Wilder lost to Fury is because Fury hit Wilder a lot of times in the face and Wilder couldn't see where the punches were coming from so Wilder asked the referee to stop it. Then Wilder got embarrassed and asked Junior Fa to come up with a lie on his behalf to get people to believe it, otherwise no one would buy it.

[PRINCEKOOL]

Deontay Wilder has not accepted that Tyson Fury has beaten him, and can beat him 'That is why he appears to be continually moaning and making excuses'.

There are negatives with this, but also positives.

In his mind 'He still think's he is better than Tyson Fury'.

The day David Haye started being all nice and complimentary towards Toney Bellew 'That was the day I understood, something was ether damaged or changed within him' He accepted that Bellew beat him, and could beat him.

Toney Bellew is not a better fighter than David Haye, not better physically, technically or even psychologically. Tony Bellew fought a large part of his career at the lower weight divisions, because he wanted a advantage 'That there shows you the difference in Haye's mentality vs Bellew's'.

David Haye at the peak of his career could of stayed at cruiser-weight and dominated 'But instead he risked it all, and ventured into the land of giants'.

The point I am trying to make is? Yes Tyson Fury did put a substantial beating on Deontay Wilder, but for some unknown reason 'Deontay Wilder has not accepted this defeat'. Since the defeat he has been telling himself a different story, which suggest the beating he sustained was not enough to put of his fire'.