Spence praised for fighting Brook, Crawford trashed for considering it. Makes sense.

[Dean_Razorback]

actually, it was brook being praised for fighting spence and not the other way around. brook fought at 160 vs GGG and took a bad beating there, coming down to 147 after that was really hard for him.

[PinkGod]

Unlike Crawford, all the elite welters in 2017 were ducking Erroll Spence, Jr at the time; Including Porter, Thurman and Danny Garcia. He didn't have any other options but to cash in his mandatory lottery ticket for the IBF title against Kell Brook.

While on the other hand, Crawford really doesn't have to take this bullshit ass fight if he really doesn't want to. He has many other options like Thurman and Porter. Both guys have called him out and he has yet to respond to any of those call outs.

That's the difference right there. Spence would have taken a Keith Thurman fight any day over a Kell Brook fight. However, Crawford won't.

Crawford has been calling out these “elite” fighters for years but all he ever heard was excuses.
Thurman: “Crawford hasn’t really fought anyone, for me to give him a shot.” Yet now when he has nothing to offer but a “name” he wants to fight...? Yeah ok.
Errol Spence: “He’s on the other side of the street” or “why would I fight you when I could just fight Shawn Porter or Keith Thurman?” But we’re supposed to believe that he’s not ducking? Yea ok.
Danny...I mean loud mouth Angel Garcia: “Crawford ain’t fought nobody, tell him to go fight somebody first then holla at us” Thing is Angel remembers about that L Crawford gave Danny back in the amateurs, he doesn’t want to put Danny through that again, so we know why they’re ducking.
Shawn Porter is your only legit argument here, but the thing is both he & Crawford have come out and said they’re friends & they don’t want to fight each other till they feel right.
Word on the street is that Thurman priced himself out before negotiations could even begin, so I’m not sure they’re seriously considering him as an opponent now, Shawn just finished fighting so I don’t think that fight currently possible. Danny & Errol are fighting next month. Only real options are Brook or maybe Thurman.

[champion4ever]

Porter is Crawford’s mandatory and won’t take 25%.

That’s DOA and shouldn’t even be discussed.

HE ALSO LOST TO KELL BROOK.

You’re also criticizing Crawford for not fighting Thurman, even though they’re under different promotional and network contracts.

Yet, Spence is excused, and even praised for not fighting Thurman, when they are under the same promoter and network.

Spence is even getting praised for fighting Thurman’s leftovers.

Do you see how biased you are yet?

Who said he won't? Wasn't Spence Kell Brook's mandatory challenger at the time and didn't he accept the 25 percent purse split to fight for the title? Yeah, I thought so.

So what you makes so confident that Shawn Porter wouldn't do the same? So what if Shawn lost to Brook and Brook lost to Spence. There's no point here.

Spence has been the bogeyman since the day he entered the welterweight picture. No one would touch him; Not even Keith Thurman who he had been calling out for years. Keith has been ducking him for years.

Thurman's leftovers? C'mon give me a break pal! You couldn't have made this funny shit up

[MUNG]

Is Spence not praised for fighting and beating Kell Brook?

Oh he is.

So who cares why the fight happened?

yeah cos brook was the champ then, the belt holder, the target of the up and comers

now he's......... not

that's me being as polite as i can be

[champion4ever]

Crawford has been calling out these “elite” fighters for years but all he ever heard was excuses.
Thurman: “Crawford hasn’t really fought anyone, for me to give him a shot.” Yet now when he has nothing to offer but a “name” he wants to fight...? Yeah ok.
Errol Spence: “He’s on the other side of the street” or “why would I fight you when I could just fight Shawn Porter or Keith Thurman?” But we’re supposed to believe that he’s not ducking? Yea ok.
Danny...I mean loud mouth Angel Garcia: “Crawford ain’t fought nobody, tell him to go fight somebody first then holla at us” Thing is Angel remembers about that L Crawford gave Danny back in the amateurs, he doesn’t want to put Danny through that again, so we know why they’re ducking.
Shawn Porter is your only legit argument here, but the thing is both he & Crawford have come out and said they’re friends & they don’t want to fight each other till they feel right.
Word on the street is that Thurman priced himself out before negotiations could even begin, so I’m not sure they’re seriously considering him as an opponent now, Shawn just finished fighting so I don’t think that fight currently possible. Danny & Errol are fighting next month. Only real options are Brook or maybe Thurman.

Crawford doesn't want any smoke from any of them; Including 41 year old Manny Pacquiao. The only name I've heard him call out since moving up to 147 is Erroll Spence.

You've mentioned Porter's name but the last I checked both Shawn and his father Kenny were interested in that fight. They have decided to put friendship aside and fight for that mandatory WBO title.

They are just waiting to hear for the phone call.

[boliodogs]

I usually agree with you but not on this. Spence knocked out Brook over 3 and one half years ago. Brook has won three fights since then and all three fights were at 154 not 147. None of the three guys Brook beat were very good and Brook did not look impressive beating cherry picks he was supposed to beat. Brook is a cherry pick for Crawford. Crawford is the WBO welterweight champ and he is about to cherry pick a Spence leftover. Look at the WBO welterweight rankings. They rank the top 15 contenders and Brook is not ranked in the top 15 at all. Other good fighters like Porter, Mikey and Ugas are in the top 10 WBO welterweight contenders and Crawford should be fighting someone like them. Brook only has a top 10 ranking at 154 because that is where he had all his fights these past 3.5 years. he will be very weight drained against Crawford. If Spence was to defend his title against Brook everyone including you would say it was a cherry pick so when Crawford fights Brook it is a cherry pick. Look at the high quality champions and top contenders Spence fights compared to the Khan and Brook cherry picks Crawford defends his title against.

[ShaneMosleySr]

Danny Garcia beat Amir Khan in 2012 at 140.

Spence beat Kell Brook in May of 2017, after he had been knocked out broke his eye socket against Golovkin.

Brook is an awesome opponent for Spence but after he’s gone on a 2 1/2 year win streak since the fight, he’s garbage!

You guys are letting the facts of the matter get in the way of a Crawford fan trying to defend his guy.


It's just a good narrative to try and equate Spence and Crawford fighting Brook.

But we dare not do the same thing with Danny Swift sparking prime Khan's chin inside 4 and Crawford low-blowing a damn-near-killed version of Khan after 9 rounds, now do we?

[ShaneMosleySr]

Porter is a two time welterweight champion who is also the mandatory for the Spence-Garcia winner, an in-house promotion fight in which he’ll get a split larger than 25%.

Spence took his mandatory position and won the title, which every up and coming fighter does.

Garcia and Porter were Thurman’s leftovers. They had no business being considered welterweight champions, it was all made up by the promoter and the abc titles.

Who said he won't? Wasn't Spence Kell Brook's mandatory challenger at the time and didn't he accept the 25 percent purse split to fight for the title? Yeah, I thought so.

So what you makes so confident that Shawn Porter wouldn't do the same? So what if Shawn lost to Brook and Brook lost to Spence. There's no point here.

Spence has been the bogeyman since the day he entered the welterweight picture. No one would touch him; Not even Keith Thurman who he had been calling out for years. Keith has been ducking him for years.

Thurman's leftovers? C'mon give me a break pal! You couldn't have made this funny shit up

[ShaneMosleySr]

I get it, the same reason you praise Terence Crawford for beating Jeff Horn, Julius Indongo and Viktor Postol.

Got it.

yeah cos brook was the champ then, the belt holder, the target of the up and comers

now he's......... not

that's me being as polite as i can be

[ShaneMosleySr]

Brook’s last three opponents were a combined 82-11. He dominated all of them. He knocked one of them out it two rounds and knocked another one out in seven after dominating the fight.

The guy who took him to the cards (Brook won every second of the fight.) kicked the **** out of Jeff Horn and knocked him out. Horn has a win over Pacquiao.

So I don’t buy that his opponents ******.

They’re good boxers that aren’t in his class.

So I don’t get why Brook is damaged goods now but not when Spence fought him. Because Spence won the fight? Shouldn’t he have won the fight if he’s as good as we all think?

If you’re going to say “but Brook got knocked out and had a broken eye socket in that fight!”, why don’t we hold that against Spence since Brook broke his eye socket and was knocked out in the fight before he fought Spence?

I usually agree with you but not on this. Spence knocked out Brook over 3 and one half years ago. Brook has won three fights since then and all three fights were at 154 not 147. None of the three guys Brook beat were very good and Brook did not look impressive beating cherry picks he was supposed to beat. Brook is a cherry pick for Crawford. Crawford is the WBO welterweight champ and he is about to cherry pick a Spence leftover. Look at the WBO welterweight rankings. They rank the top 15 contenders and Brook is not ranked in the top 15 at all. Other good fighters like Porter, Mikey and Ugas are in the top 10 WBO welterweight contenders and Crawford should be fighting someone like them. Brook only has a top 10 ranking at 154 because that is where he had all his fights these past 3.5 years. he will be very weight drained against Crawford. If Spence was to defend his title against Brook everyone including you would say it was a cherry pick so when Crawford fights Brook it is a cherry pick. Look at the high quality champions and top contenders Spence fights compared to the Khan and Brook cherry picks Crawford defends his title against.