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  • TarasMarcenko
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    #21
    Originally posted by BodyBagz
    Marriaga Backs Lomachenko To Beat Lopez

    Damn....they don't need to fight now

    Well if it was Haney, yeah they wouldn't need to fight. Haney petitioned for Loma's belt when Loma was elevated to Franchise. It wasn't just handed to Haney, he actively petitioned for it. Never made sense why Haney felt he had a right to the belt and petitioned for it.

    It should have been treated as a vacant belt and fought for, just as Campbell and Lomachenko fought for Mikey's vacant belt.

    Anyhow Loma said he wants to fight Haney after he fights for the IBF. He wants to fight Haney and Tank, in either order next, if he becomes undisputed. Let's hope Tank will step up finally. Loma has asked for Tank for a few years now, ever since Tank had a belt at 130. Once Tank moved up to 135 Loma again asked for him. Because it's a fight everyone wants to see.

    Undisputed overrules every mando, so Haney's yapping wasn't going to get Loma to take an interim fight and risk getting hurt before the biggest prize for undisputed. Haney needs to get in line and get the fight after Loma obtains his goal, if he beats the bigger and more difficult opponent, Teo. Haney is not better than Teo. Loma is one belt away from his goal, as is Teofimo, of sorts, and as any fighter ever in the history in boxing would do, he's not letting Haney's baiting get in the way. Not a one fighter, in the history of boxing, would fight an interim bout when history is on the door steps in the next bout. A risk of injury for one thing. But to nip it in the bud, with all of Haney's bs yapping, he wants Haney right after. Haney has fought zero 5 star fighters in 24 fights. Loma has fought 8 in 15 fights and is about to fight his 9th in 16 fights.
    Last edited by TarasMarcenko; 09-05-2020, 11:02 PM.

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    • BodyBagz
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      #22
      Originally posted by TarasMarcenko
      Well if it was Haney, yeah they wouldn't need to fight. Haney petitioned for Loma's belt when Loma was elevated to Franchise. It wasn't just handed to Haney, he actively petitioned for it. Never made sense why Haney felt he had a right to the belt and petitioned for it.

      It should have been treated as a vacant belt and fought for, just as Campbell and Lomachenko fought for Mikey's vacant belt.

      Anyhow Loma said he wants to fight Haney after he fights for the IBF. He wants to fight Haney and Tank, in either order next, if he becomes undisputed. Let's hope Tank will step up finally. Loma has asked for Tank for a few years now, ever since Tank had a belt at 130. Once Tank moved up to 135 Loma again asked for him. Because it's a fight everyone wants to see.

      Undisputed overrules every mando, so Haney's yapping wasn't going to get Loma to take an interim fight and risk getting hurt before the biggest prize undisputed. Haney needs to get in line and get the fight after Loma obtains his goal. As any fighter ever in the history in boxing would do. Not a one would fight an interim bout when history is on the door steps.
      Who cares who backs who, though ? I mean, what silly nonsense is this ?!?!?!

      When a team member backs the other guy, THEN we have a news article worth reading.

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      • TarasMarcenko
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        #23
        Originally posted by BodyBagz
        Who cares who backs who, though ? I mean, what silly nonsense is this ?!?!?!

        When a team member backs the other guy, THEN we have a news article worth reading.
        Yeah. I can see your point. That's true. It's fodder for short news days. There are many fighters backing Teofimo, and it gets even more press to be honest. Insanely so.

        All articles: Mikey thinks Teofimo has a huge chance. Porter hopes Teofimo wins and is cheering for him. Fury things Teo will KO Loma. Leo Santa Cruize is 100% in Teo's corner. There are other articles with professional boxers saying Teo will win, mainly on boxing24.
        Last edited by TarasMarcenko; 09-05-2020, 10:52 PM.

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          #24
          Originally posted by TarasMarcenko
          Yeah. I can see your point. That's true. Many fighters back Teofimo, and it gets the same amount of news to be honest. Insanely so. It's fodder for short news days.
          Many people back many people.

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          • TarasMarcenko
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            #25
            Originally posted by BodyBagz
            Many people back many people.
            Yep. Can't argue with that. I wasn't even commenting on this article but responding to some earlier posts. Frankly Marriaga is a good fighter, definitely not bottom of the barrel. Was a four star fighter when he fought Loma and now with a record of 29 and 3 and 0 is a 3 1/2 star fighter. He's fought Loma, so has a little perspective, just as Linares has, so it's a little more news worthy than others who have never fought either. But he's never fought Teo. So, it's from one perspective only plus what he's seen in the ring from Teo on tape or live.
            Last edited by TarasMarcenko; 09-05-2020, 11:04 PM.

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              #26
              Originally posted by TarasMarcenko
              Yep. Can't argue with that. I wasn't even commenting on this article but responding to some earlier posts. Frankly Marriaga is a good fighter, definitely not bottom of the barrel. Probably a four star fighter to be honest. He's fought Loma so has a little perspective, just as Linares has, so it's a little more news worthy than others who have never fought either. But he's never fought Teo. So, it's from one perspective only plus what he's seen in the ring from Teo on tape or live.
              I get the gist of ''backs'' news. ''If that fighter is picking that fighter to beat that fighter......'' might make the betting odds change ?

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              • TarasMarcenko
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                #27
                Originally posted by BodyBagz
                I get the gist of ''backs'' news. ''If that fighter is picking that fighter to beat that fighter......'' might make the betting odds change ?
                Hmm... I don't know. I don't know if Vegas is swayed by other fighters' opinions. They have some renown analysts to do their jobs. Maybe part of their equation is taking the opinion of other 'experts', being those that get in the ring and see things normal people don't see. I'm not sure though. But truth be said, who knows boxing better than those that lace up? Some of the top trainers see more, study tape of all the greats and look at nuances, and a few select besides trainers are students of the art, but it's rare probably. Nothing like lacing up and 'being' in the ring, in the middle of it all.
                Last edited by TarasMarcenko; 09-05-2020, 11:11 PM.

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                  #28
                  Originally posted by TarasMarcenko
                  Hmm... I don't know. I don't know if Vegas is swayed by other fighters' opinions. They have some renown analysts to do their jobs. Maybe part of their equation is taking the opinion of other 'experts', being those that get in the ring and see things normal people don't see. I'm not sure though.
                  Some bettors might be influenced.

                  I'm hoping this lives up to the hype.

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                  • TarasMarcenko
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                    #29
                    Originally posted by BodyBagz
                    Some bettors might be influenced.

                    I'm hoping this lives up to the hype.
                    Yep. Me too. I'll almost be sorry when it's over, cause it's been quite a build up with almost a year delay and hundreds of these articles. If it doesn't live up to the hype... damn. What a waste of time.
                    Last edited by TarasMarcenko; 09-05-2020, 11:16 PM.

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                      #30
                      Originally posted by TarasMarcenko
                      Yep. Me too. I'll almost be sorry when it's over, cause it's been quite a build up. Almost a year delayed. But in all honesty if it was this weekend I'd be geeked.
                      No more mismatches. Let's see the best fight the best. This is a great start.

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