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Comments Thread For: Joshua on Fury: I've Seen Nothing To Make Me Think He's a Massive Threat
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Fee-fi-fo-fum,
Fury smells the blood of an Englishman,
AJ starts live, but he'll wish to be dead,
As Fury grinds his bones to make his bread.
AJ, Consider yourself warned.
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Originally posted by Squared.Circle View PostFunny how you didn't put the following sentence in bold text. I'll do it for you for some clarity...
AJ has a far greater chance of beating Fury than Wilder ever did/has. AJ is simply a better boxer than Wilder in every aspect.
Wilder had a 1 (punch that caused the knockdown) in, what? 400+ (punches thrown) chance of winning? That's the only way he could win, landing a lucky punch. AJ has the far superior skill set than Wilder and also packs a punch. Logic says AJ has a greater chance of beating Fury than Wilder's one lucky punch out of 400+.
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Originally posted by KingGilgamesh View PostStill not really convinced by any of these top 3. I leaned more towards Wilder but that was because I liked his mentality and because I have a soft spot for old school american heavyweights of a time gone by.
Fury is, by far, the superior boxing talent but he has gone over ten years into his pro career without defending a belt. Maybe that all means **** all. I follow him on social media and he seems as committed and dedicated as any top fighter...but something nagging in the back of my head says to me that he's going to just end up pissing it all away either through a ****ty performance or some shenanigans involving PEDs or some other nonsense. The recent bandwagoners should be paid no mind, I remember plenty of those same loser EDL types claiming that Wilder would best him in the second fight (not sure why, Fury did seem rattled but he still should have cruised to a 12 round decision).
Joshua? For some reason I have never, ever been convinced by. I dont know if its jut because I tend to rail against fighters with machines behind them, but I have just never been in the ring and watched him deliver any kind of inspired boxing, either tactically or physically. I think opinions towards him have soured somewhat and he's finally being rated appropriately but I still am not convinced that he is a firm number 2. This tends to come from the same people who claimed that Whyte was a solid number 4 and I was always convinced that was bull****, as a fortnight ago proved. Thing is, I feel both Whyte and Joshua need much of the machinations of a fight in their favour. Take away home cooking or a superior gameplan and they're fish out of water. This is why Fury excels. Wilder also convinces me simply because of his freakish straight right...even though we all know his boxing is not only poor, but may have actually somewhat regressed over the years.
But as they say its heavyweight and anything happens.
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Originally posted by Tyistall View PostThe Klitschko Fury fight was the worst, most boring eyesore of a fight I've ever seen. I cannot rewatch it if I was paid to. And you conveniently forget to mention that AJ came back and pitched a shut out against Ruiz. And if he couldn't find Parker, it was because Parker ran from him the entire fight, refusing to engage. Also, don't call him Fury, call him Nandrolone Fury
Running from a short stationary blob for 12 rounds was farsical and cowardly.
AJ couldnt find parker because they had paid the ref make sure it happened that way. Could have been a good fight if Ref wasnt intent on preventing a fight breaking out.
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Originally posted by KingGilgamesh View PostYES.
Perfect gameplans tend to be dull and one sided. There is a reason why people complained about Lewis and Mayweather and your own faves win over Andy Ruiz in the second fight. You know absolutely **** all about boxing if you think a good gameplan is indicative of an entertaining fight. Wlad was a height and weight bully who would jab and smother his opponents. He doesn't engage readily because his chin is questionable, evidenced multiple times and even in fights he won like that against Samuel Peter. Fury completely nullified Wlad and it left him bamboozled. It was his most one sided loss since Saunders.
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Originally posted by Jkp View PostAJ vs Ruiz was a completely different level of boring.
Running from a short stationary blob for 12 rounds was farsical and cowardly.
AJ couldnt find parker because they had paid the ref make sure it happened that way. Could have been a good fight if Ref wasnt intent on preventing a fight breaking out.
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There's always a little doubt in my mind about Fury.
To take the title you've usually got to beat the champ twice. Signal a change in era and remove all doubt.
In a parallel universe there's a version of Fury that didn't go right off the rails and instead had the rematch against Wlad. And while it was obviously Fury that made it hard for Wlad to throw his right hand, you'd be foolish to think that a champion like him wouldn't have learnt anything or made adjustments.
Beating a paper champion like Wilder doesn't change that.
How would Fury be viewed if Wlad won the belt back? The wide decision in the first fight wasn't really that wide - it was a landed punch here and there.
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