Comments Thread For: Joshua on Fury: I've Seen Nothing To Make Me Think He's a Massive Threat

[JakeTheBoxer]

Nothing at all enlightening in your post. However, Joshua may also win if he outpoints Fury!

Yeah, and pigs fly. Fury wins every round if they go distance.

[Silver Spear]

AJ hit Fury plenty when they sparred, he hasn't got any slower and Fury hasn't got faster.
Fury came out and said he'd been knocked around in sparring by a kid who was going to be a world champion (before AJ was known).

So your chief argument holds no water. As for your assessment of AJ's abilities, you clearly haven't watched him fight (or don't know what you're looking for).

AJ throws very fast combinations (not just power punches at all), he has a good jab and can parry and counter better than most. Fury has more skills but AJ is a supreme athlete and a whole lot more powerful than Fury. He is one of the better boxers in the heavyweight division.
Maybe he moves too fast for you to see what he's doing (you've obviously missed an awful lot going by your terrible assessment).

I do not take sparring seriously. There are endless amounts of rumors about so-and-so sparring someone and something happening. I am basing my comments on AJ on his most recent fights. One he underestimated his opponent and proved yet again that he does not have good defense or a decent chin. In the rematch he looked very stiff and looked like he was afraid to engage. It was almost as if he forgot hot to throw combinations and how to follow up the jab. Anybody can look good against mediocre opponents.

[Tyistall]

Fury fought a big champ Klitschko. In Germany. And outboxed him like nobody else.

Joshua almost got knocked out cold by the same Klitschko. In England.

Joshua had a terrible game plan.

AJ beats Klitschko by KO and it's a terrible game plan, but Fury winning on points in a snoozer is an amazing fight??? Yeah, that's just ******.

[deathofaclown]

Fury fought a big champ Klitschko. In Germany. And outboxed him like nobody else.

Joshua almost got knocked out cold by the same Klitschko. In England.

Joshua had a terrible game plan.

The problem is AJ is and always has been a very upright stiff fighter . The truth is that he would’ve been a tailor made opponent for a younger Wlad, hence why even an old inactive Wlad still nearly stopped him. Wlad made a career feasting on and stopping stiff upright fighters.

Same reason I see Fury comfortably beating him. I just don’t see someone so predictable and textbook beating Fury. At least with Wilder, he always has the chance of pulling out a shot you don’t see coming. I think a fighter with a good ring IQ like Fury will see everything AJ does, and has the skill to use it against him.

[KingGilgamesh]

AJ to me still looks green and in the AJ fight it looked like he had to remember what to do and was thinking really hard during the fight. Come fight night everything should come natural. His defense is terrible and has shown to have a soft chin.

Wilder does not really have a "straight right" per se it is more of a windmill right. He has only really thrown it straight a handful of times and I actually thought that he had a chance in the rematch with Fury if he learned to throw it more cleanly and straight versus looping to which Fury could telegraph a mile away.

Fury has the height, weight, speed, footwork and defense over those 2 and anyone else in the division. Plus he is crafty and a bit dirty. He gets away with some illegal stuff and knows how to hide it from the ref. Watch his fight against Klitschko and Wilder 2. He used similar techniques there with each fighter and the only difference is that Klitschko was a better boxer but even he got frustrated as seen in his attempt to head butt Fury. Wilder is just not there with his boxing IQ.

Yep, I agree with everything said here TBH

Fury's boxing IQ is decades superior, that just simply cant be denied.

[KingGilgamesh]

AJ beats Klitschko by KO and it's a terrible game plan, but Fury winning on points in a snoozer is an amazing fight??? Yeah, that's just ******.

YES.

Perfect gameplans tend to be dull and one sided. There is a reason why people complained about Lewis and Mayweather and your own faves win over Andy Ruiz in the second fight. You know absolutely **** all about boxing if you think a good gameplan is indicative of an entertaining fight. Wlad was a height and weight bully who would jab and smother his opponents. He doesn't engage readily because his chin is questionable, evidenced multiple times and even in fights he won like that against Samuel Peter. Fury completely nullified Wlad and it left him bamboozled. It was his most one sided loss since Saunders.

[Toffee]

No, he hasn't got to appease me at all. He just wasn't willing to take the chance to try to stop Parker, because according to him he didn't want to invite counters. So why do you expect him to appease you and stop a taller, longer, more mobile Fury? He was wobbled against a one armed Whyte, and pretty gassed. I only mentioned this because it seems to be fair game to put McDermott on the table, when Fury was gassed and out of shape and a domestic novice. I've never said AJ is a bum, or a bad boxer. But he struggled far more against an older Wlad than Fury did, and he had alot of trouble with Parkers movement, even Povetkins head movement early on. You think he just walks in and nails Fury? He doesn't have that kind of confidence in hes chin, certainly not now. Ruiz can hit, but he wasnt a noted puncher. He slaughtered AJ, who gassed and didn't dispute the stoppage. Then he changed hes style to outbox Ruiz, not taking a chance to plant himself once for fear of being hit. You think he now just marches in through the reach disadvantage to stop Fury late, when Fury has better stamina also? How's he getting in? He's not much of a jabber. Hes shorter, has far inferior head movement, inferior stamina, and dented confidence. How does he do it?

I don't expect him to march straight at Fury at all.

You've got this vision of the fight where AJ is the aggressor, chasing Fury around the ring and he's getting dodged and caught. And therefore can't win.

But you've seen him win in different ways, and criticised him for all of them.

What if it's Fury the aggressor, getting caught on the way in? It could be a very cagey fight.

[Jkp]

No, he hasn't got to appease me at all. He just wasn't willing to take the chance to try to stop Parker, because according to him he didn't want to invite counters. So why do you expect him to appease you and stop a taller, longer, more mobile Fury? He was wobbled against a one armed Whyte, and pretty gassed. I only mentioned this because it seems to be fair game to put McDermott on the table, when Fury was gassed and out of shape and a domestic novice. I've never said AJ is a bum, or a bad boxer. But he struggled far more against an older Wlad than Fury did, and he had alot of trouble with Parkers movement, even Povetkins head movement early on. You think he just walks in and nails Fury? He doesn't have that kind of confidence in hes chin, certainly not now. Ruiz can hit, but he wasnt a noted puncher. He slaughtered AJ, who gassed and didn't dispute the stoppage. Then he changed hes style to outbox Ruiz, not taking a chance to plant himself once for fear of being hit. You think he now just marches in through the reach disadvantage to stop Fury late, when Fury has better stamina also? How's he getting in? He's not much of a jabber. Hes shorter, has far inferior head movement, inferior stamina, and dented confidence. How does he do it?

Agree. reach and size is a massive advantage in boxing.
It takes a massively superior boxing IQ for smaller fighter to win. AJ doesnt have that boxing IQ. and struggles horribly even with smaller fighters. He has very little in his favor to win the Fury fight.

His best chance at a win is for Eddie to start delivering sacks of ******* to furys house, so that Fury goes off the rails again and forgets to train like ruiz did. Except it was the buffet, not the coke, that got better of Ruiz.

[Mindgames]

The Klitschko Fury fight was the worst, most boring eyesore of a fight I've ever seen. I cannot rewatch it if I was paid to. And you conveniently forget to mention that AJ came back and pitched a shut out against Ruiz. And if he couldn't find Parker, it was because Parker ran from him the entire fight, refusing to engage. Also, don't call him Fury, call him Nandrolone Fury

Nah, the Fury Wlad fight did stink, but Fury won easily, thats the way it is. He'll control AJ from range most likely, because AJ is slow, and basic, hasn't got much of a Jab or head movement. And if Fury doesnt fail a drugs test, you'll just have to swallow the fact AJ just wasn't a great boxer, unless the guy was much shorter than him, like Ruiz.

[Mindgames]

I don't expect him to march straight at Fury at all.

You've got this vision of the fight where AJ is the aggressor, chasing Fury around the ring and he's getting dodged and caught. And therefore can't win.

But you've seen him win in different ways, and criticised him for all of them.

What if it's Fury the aggressor, getting caught on the way in? It could be a very cagey fight.

Furys not silly. He'll get on hes bike, use hes range and mobility, til AJ gets tired and frustrated. He outboxed Ruiz great, but look at the range advantage. I can't see him beating Fury from the outside, because he's not got a particularly good jab, and he's pretty basic combination wise. I think it's Fury Klitschko two myself. Furys just a better, more mobile boxer, with the better gas tank. Imo.