Comments Thread For: Joshua on Fury: I've Seen Nothing To Make Me Think He's a Massive Threat

[champion4ever]

Joshua can fight. He knows how to handle and protect himself. Moreover, AJ can hit and if he starts putting his punches together in combinations and bunches he can stop Tyson Fury.

[Silver Spear]

Ha! How is it lies if it’s his opinion!? If he doesn’t find Fury intimidating then that’s fine.

Don’t act all butt hurt because what Joshua says doesn’t conform to your opinion.

How is it his opinion if it is a lie? Just because Bill Clinton gave his opinion that he did not have sexual relations with that woman does not mean it was true.

[KingGilgamesh]

Still not really convinced by any of these top 3. I leaned more towards Wilder but that was because I liked his mentality and because I have a soft spot for old school american heavyweights of a time gone by.

Fury is, by far, the superior boxing talent but he has gone over ten years into his pro career without defending a belt. Maybe that all means **** all. I follow him on social media and he seems as committed and dedicated as any top fighter...but something nagging in the back of my head says to me that he's going to just end up pissing it all away either through a ****ty performance or some shenanigans involving PEDs or some other nonsense. The recent bandwagoners should be paid no mind, I remember plenty of those same loser EDL types claiming that Wilder would best him in the second fight (not sure why, Fury did seem rattled but he still should have cruised to a 12 round decision).

Joshua? For some reason I have never, ever been convinced by. I dont know if its jut because I tend to rail against fighters with machines behind them, but I have just never been in the ring and watched him deliver any kind of inspired boxing, either tactically or physically. I think opinions towards him have soured somewhat and he's finally being rated appropriately but I still am not convinced that he is a firm number 2. This tends to come from the same people who claimed that Whyte was a solid number 4 and I was always convinced that was bull****, as a fortnight ago proved. Thing is, I feel both Whyte and Joshua need much of the machinations of a fight in their favour. Take away home cooking or a superior gameplan and they're fish out of water. This is why Fury excels. Wilder also convinces me simply because of his freakish straight right...even though we all know his boxing is not only poor, but may have actually somewhat regressed over the years.

But as they say its heavyweight and anything happens.

[Silver Spear]

I know Fury is the big favourite for the fight but I'm putting money on AJ beating him.
I'm looking forward to this site the day after AJ knocks out Fury in 6.

Will you all jump ship like you did when Fury beat Wilder? Suddenly Fury became a boxing God simply by being the first to expose a paper champ?
Any top heavyweight would have done the same (which is why Wilder never fought any).

Or will you make up conspiracy theories and lies to take away from the victory?

I said Fury would beat Wilder here and was mocked, you all thought Wilder was too dangerous. Now I'm saying AJ will beat Fury and expect a lot of abuse for saying so. But just wait, I will stand by my words.

Your hatred for AJ has blinded you. You have a different view of events to me, but I can assure you that AJ is not afraid to fight Fury. Fury beat Wilder mentally way before the fight, so much so that Wilder refused to appear on the fight promo with him.

AJ and Fury know each other well, they frequently talk on the phone and have sparred in the past. Fury won't have the mental edge over AJ because AJ knows exactly what to expect.

To suggest that Joshua doesn't think he can beat Fury is naive nonsense. Why would he think that? Fury beat Klitschko on points, AJ then went one better and knocked him out.

AJ became World Champion in a record beating number of fights, he has beaten everybody he has faced, why do you think he wouldn't be confident he will win? Do you understand psychology at all? I think I could beat Fury, we all think we are better than we are.

To knock someone out you have to be able to hit him. AJ had a hard time hitting a short fat Ruiz. He showed in that fight that he has a hard time putting up any sort of combo with those jabs. He had plenty of opportunities to put up some powerful punches against Ruiz in the rematch but froze because of the fear of being knocked out again.

I never thought Wilder could beat Fury and I always thought Fury would win. One little detail you and other AJ fans keep omitting is the fact that Klitschko was still the undisputed HW champ when he lost easy to Fury. He had been retired and not fought for almost 2 years when he fought AJ and he put AJ down. AJ may have won by KO but he was not dominating like Fury was.

AJ is still too green for Fury, his defense is among the worst of all the top HW. He is not a good boxer he only knows how to throw power punches. His foot work is nowhere near as good as Fury's.

[Silver Spear]

Still not really convinced by any of these top 3. I leaned more towards Wilder but that was because I liked his mentality and because I have a soft spot for old school american heavyweights of a time gone by.

Fury is, by far, the superior boxing talent but he has gone over ten years into his pro career without defending a belt. Maybe that all means **** all. I follow him on social media and he seems as committed and dedicated as any top fighter...but something nagging in the back of my head says to me that he's going to just end up pissing it all away either through a ****ty performance or some shenanigans involving PEDs or some other nonsense. The recent bandwagoners should be paid no mind, I remember plenty of those same loser EDL types claiming that Wilder would best him in the second fight (not sure why, Fury did seem rattled but he still should have cruised to a 12 round decision).

Joshua? For some reason I have never, ever been convinced by. I dont know if its jut because I tend to rail against fighters with machines behind them, but I have just never been in the ring and watched him deliver any kind of inspired boxing, either tactically or physically. I think opinions towards him have soured somewhat and he's finally being rated appropriately but I still am not convinced that he is a firm number 2. This tends to come from the same people who claimed that Whyte was a solid number 4 and I was always convinced that was bull****, as a fortnight ago proved. Thing is, I feel both Whyte and Joshua need much of the machinations of a fight in their favour. Take away home cooking or a superior gameplan and they're fish out of water. This is why Fury excels. Wilder also convinces me simply because of his freakish straight right...even though we all know his boxing is not only poor, but may have actually somewhat regressed over the years.

But as they say its heavyweight and anything happens.

AJ to me still looks green and in the AJ fight it looked like he had to remember what to do and was thinking really hard during the fight. Come fight night everything should come natural. His defense is terrible and has shown to have a soft chin.

Wilder does not really have a "straight right" per se it is more of a windmill right. He has only really thrown it straight a handful of times and I actually thought that he had a chance in the rematch with Fury if he learned to throw it more cleanly and straight versus looping to which Fury could telegraph a mile away.

Fury has the height, weight, speed, footwork and defense over those 2 and anyone else in the division. Plus he is crafty and a bit dirty. He gets away with some illegal stuff and knows how to hide it from the ref. Watch his fight against Klitschko and Wilder 2. He used similar techniques there with each fighter and the only difference is that Klitschko was a better boxer but even he got frustrated as seen in his attempt to head butt Fury. Wilder is just not there with his boxing IQ.

[hugh grant]

Josh is doing good job selling fight. Fury must slip Josh a few extra quid

[Angeljuice]

To knock someone out you have to be able to hit him. AJ had a hard time hitting a short fat Ruiz. He showed in that fight that he has a hard time putting up any sort of combo with those jabs. He had plenty of opportunities to put up some powerful punches against Ruiz in the rematch but froze because of the fear of being knocked out again.

I never thought Wilder could beat Fury and I always thought Fury would win. One little detail you and other AJ fans keep omitting is the fact that Klitschko was still the undisputed HW champ when he lost easy to Fury. He had been retired and not fought for almost 2 years when he fought AJ and he put AJ down. AJ may have won by KO but he was not dominating like Fury was.

AJ is still too green for Fury, his defense is among the worst of all the top HW. He is not a good boxer he only knows how to throw power punches. His foot work is nowhere near as good as Fury's.

AJ hit Fury plenty when they sparred, he hasn't got any slower and Fury hasn't got faster.
Fury came out and said he'd been knocked around in sparring by a kid who was going to be a world champion (before AJ was known).

So your chief argument holds no water. As for your assessment of AJ's abilities, you clearly haven't watched him fight (or don't know what you're looking for).

AJ throws very fast combinations (not just power punches at all), he has a good jab and can parry and counter better than most. Fury has more skills but AJ is a supreme athlete and a whole lot more powerful than Fury. He is one of the better boxers in the heavyweight division.
Maybe he moves too fast for you to see what he's doing (you've obviously missed an awful lot going by your terrible assessment).

[LoadedWraps]

There already is a t at the end of the word eight.

So many idiots believe Fury too much just because he beat paper champ wilder... Aj will hurt and knock him out before 9

AJ wouldn't have a belt if Fury didn't toss them in a dumpster. AJs best successes are the crumbs off of Furys table. And you call Wilder a paper champ?

[Jkp]

Olympic champ means nothing really, 2 words, Audley Harrison.

As for having the deepest CV well it really depends on how you look at it, he doesn’t have the quality of wins that Fury does. I think we can agree with that. Fury’s two best ones are better than anything Joshua has.

People talk about Joshua’s wins over all these top opponents. Well Ruiz wasn’t really anywhere in the top 10 when he beat Joshua, his highest ranking was at no.15 with one governing body.

Dillian fight was when they were both domestic level for British title. Takam and Breazeale are no better than the likes of Chisora, probably worse, same with Charles Martin who won a title via leg injury.

So who are you really left with? Povetkin, Parker and Wlad. And Parker never set the world alight after he won his vacant title. Wlad was coming off a loss to Fury too.

The myth that Joshua has gone through a murderers row of opponents is nonsense when you really look at it. he probably has one more genuinely solid opponent than Fury has had at the time of fighting them. But Fury has the bigger and better wins.

Don’t get me wrong, Joshua has done very well for the amount of fights he had, but he never beat any long reigning champions like Fury did.

Agree, not much substance to this record when u look at the age and how he won some of those fights. And of course the comprehensive loss he suffered.

But record is best of bad Bunch.

Another 40 year old to add to his record soon.

[JakeTheBoxer]

The Klitschko Fury fight was the worst, most boring eyesore of a fight I've ever seen. I cannot rewatch it if I was paid to. And you conveniently forget to mention that AJ came back and pitched a shut out against Ruiz. And if he couldn't find Parker, it was because Parker ran from him the entire fight, refusing to engage. Also, don't call him Fury, call him Nandrolone Fury

Fury fought a big champ Klitschko. In Germany. And outboxed him like nobody else.

Joshua almost got knocked out cold by the same Klitschko. In England.

Joshua had a terrible game plan.