Comments Thread For: Joshua on Fury: I've Seen Nothing To Make Me Think He's a Massive Threat

[Squared.Circle]

Totally agree with you. Loads of Fury ****wagoners who’ll vanish if Joshua beats Fury.

Joshua fans are realistic that Fury can obviously win but Fury fans are so confident that AJ CANNOT win that it’ll be hilarious to see this place after.

AJ by TKO within 8. He won’t be able to spark Fury out with one punch. It’ll be a combination of heavy punches and we all know when Fury goes down he recovers well so if AJ lands heavy (which I think he will), he needs to follow up and avoid his clinches.

It’s not rocket science! Only way Fury wins is to win the psychological battle and out-box AJ.

Yea that's the only realistic way I see AJ winning, forcing a stoppage. AJ has heavy hands and can cause damage with a combination. Fury isn't a ghost, he gets hit, always has and always will. He won't be able to avoid every single punch.

People make comparisons to Parker; "AJ couldn't catch Parker, how is he gonna catch Fury?"...Parker is much faster than Fury. People make comparisons to Ruiz; Fury isn't 6'2 and won't be able to slip his arms out of a clinch and wing in an overhand right. I would have thought by now that these "true boxing fans" would have learnt that you can't reasonably use a previous fight with an opponent who has a completely different style to gauge how an upcoming fight will go, it just doesn't work like that.

I do think Fury will win though but as I've previously said, I'll be rooting for AJ.

[deathofaclown]

If you're comfortably outboxing a guy in a title unification fight... why would you change anything to go and search for a knockout?

Just to appease you?

The idea (as posted above) that he 'struggled' against Parker and Whyte is nonsense. He's struggled against only two fighters, one of which he knocked out and one he avenged comfortably.

Unless your definition of 'struggling' is that the other guy was actually in the fight?

Olympic champion, deepest CV in the division, unified three belts, did it all in 21 pro fights... beaten every man he's faced.

And people on here have got him as a no hoper. You see how ridiculous that looks don't you?

Olympic champ means nothing really, 2 words, Audley Harrison.

As for having the deepest CV well it really depends on how you look at it, he doesn’t have the quality of wins that Fury does. I think we can agree with that. Fury’s two best ones are better than anything Joshua has.

People talk about Joshua’s wins over all these top opponents. Well Ruiz wasn’t really anywhere in the top 10 when he beat Joshua, his highest ranking was at no.15 with one governing body.

Dillian fight was when they were both domestic level for British title. Takam and Breazeale are no better than the likes of Chisora, probably worse, same with Charles Martin who won a title via leg injury.

So who are you really left with? Povetkin, Parker and Wlad. And Parker never set the world alight after he won his vacant title. Wlad was coming off a loss to Fury too.

The myth that Joshua has gone through a murderers row of opponents is nonsense when you really look at it. he probably has one more genuinely solid opponent than Fury has had at the time of fighting them. But Fury has the bigger and better wins.

Don’t get me wrong, Joshua has done very well for the amount of fights he had, but he never beat any long reigning champions like Fury did.

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Fury won't just defeat AJ, he will give him a brutal beating.

Joshua is a mental midget and a weight lifter.

Joshua's best win is Furys sloppy seconds and he got dominated and stopped by the fattest boxer in the game & a 500/1 underdog.

[Toffee]

Olympic champ means nothing really, 2 words, Audley Harrison.

As for having the deepest CV well it really depends on how you look at it, he doesn’t have the quality of wins that Fury does. I think we can agree with that. Fury’s two best ones are better than anything Joshua has.

People talk about Joshua’s wins over all these top opponents. Well Ruiz wasn’t really anywhere in the top 10 when he beat Joshua, his highest ranking was at no.15 with one governing body.

Dillian fight was when they were both domestic level for British title. Takam and Breazeale are no better than the likes of Chisora, probably worse, same with Charles Martin who won a title via leg injury.

So who are you really left with? Povetkin, Parker and Wlad. And Parker never set the world alight after he won his vacant title. Wlad was coming off a loss to Fury too.

The myth that Joshua has gone through a murderers row of opponents is nonsense when you really look at. it he probably has one more genuinely solid opponent than Fury has had at the time of fighting them. But Fury has the bigger and better wins.

Don’t get me wrong, Joshua has did excellent for the amount of fights he had, but he never beat any long reigning champions like Fury did.

I don't think he's gone through murderer's row... but he pretty much beat what was out there. And did it early. You may not rate Parker but he was a concensus 3 in the world and a champion. Wlad may have come off a loss but he was still one of the best of recent times. Takam, Breazeale, Povetkin... all reasonable fights to take.

It's not Fury's best two wins... but then Fury's third best result was a draw.

Obviously there's the exception of an undisputed fight, which I think you have to lay equally on Wilder. It didn't get made.

I've always thought Joshua was a tough night for Fury. Fury's turned me closer to 50/50 now.

To be honest, I just can't fathom how lots of people on here don't rate Joshua at all. I mean, you just show yourself up with that view don't you?

And Olympic champion doesn't mean nothing. Audley mighty be one example, but there are plenty of better examples. And I suspect Audley's career was less about him not being a good boxer and more to do with how he was (or wasn't) managed as a pro.

[alexjust]

Lies. AJ knows he has no chance against fury.

We'll get a string of confusing stories like this pretending they wanted it. So they have a convenient alabi when finger pointing starts.

Exact same scenario as Wilder vs AJ

Calm down, keyboard Rambo. How many world champions do you know who believe they have no chance against anyone? Its just not in the DNA of a C-level fighter to think like this, not to mention a champion like AJ.

Don't worry, they'll make the fight, you'll see.

[deathofaclown]

I don't think he's gone through murderer's row... but he pretty much beat what was out there. And did it early. You may not rate Parker but he was a concensus 3 in the world and a champion. Wlad may have come off a loss but he was still one of the best of recent times. Takam, Breazeale, Povetkin... all reasonable fights to take.

It's not Fury's best two wins... but then Fury's third best result was a draw.

Obviously there's the exception of an undisputed fight, which I think you have to lay equally on Wilder. It didn't get made.

I've always thought Joshua was a tough night for Fury. Fury's turned me closer to 50/50 now.

To be honest, I just can't fathom how lots of people on here don't rate Joshua at all. I mean, you just show yourself up with that view don't you?

And Olympic champion doesn't mean nothing. Audley mighty be one example, but there are plenty of better examples. And I suspect Audley's career was less about him not being a good boxer and more to do with how he was (or wasn't) managed as a pro.

obviously to think Joshua has no chance is ******, he’s obviously one of the better heavyweights in the world, the general consensus being this is 1 vs 2. Personally I think stylistically Wilder probably beats Joshua because Joshua is a bit of a static target and you can’t be that against Wilder.

That’ll never be proven until they fight, so I’ll go along with Fury v AJ being a fight between 1 and 2.

So yeah, to say one of the fighters in a fight between the two best has no chance is a bit ridiculous. There’s too many factors in boxing to say that. I mean either guy could be caught cold in the first 20 seconds, it happens.

My personal opinion is that all things being well and both fighters are at their best, then I think Fury has too much ability and versatility for Joshua and does a job on him. I picked Fury to beat both Wlad and Wilder. I personally think he’s a cut above the rest of the heavyweights right now and he turns up on the big occasion. I mean, the guy was no.1 in the division after dethroning Wlad, disappeared for 3 years as an obese mess, comes back and is now considered no.1 In every list again. You can’t do that without serious ability.

All opinion of course. We will never know until it happens and that’s why we wanna see it. I believe Fury comfortably beats him. But you can’t bet your life on it, it’s boxing.

[Mindgames]

If you're comfortably outboxing a guy in a title unification fight... why would you change anything to go and search for a knockout?

Just to appease you?

The idea (as posted above) that he 'struggled' against Parker and Whyte is nonsense. He's struggled against only two fighters, one of which he knocked out and one he avenged comfortably.

Unless your definition of 'struggling' is that the other guy was actually in the fight?

Olympic champion, deepest CV in the division, unified three belts, did it all in 21 pro fights... beaten every man he's faced.

And people on here have got him as a no hoper. You see how ridiculous that looks don't you?

No, he hasn't got to appease me at all. He just wasn't willing to take the chance to try to stop Parker, because according to him he didn't want to invite counters. So why do you expect him to appease you and stop a taller, longer, more mobile Fury? He was wobbled against a one armed Whyte, and pretty gassed. I only mentioned this because it seems to be fair game to put McDermott on the table, when Fury was gassed and out of shape and a domestic novice. I've never said AJ is a bum, or a bad boxer. But he struggled far more against an older Wlad than Fury did, and he had alot of trouble with Parkers movement, even Povetkins head movement early on. You think he just walks in and nails Fury? He doesn't have that kind of confidence in hes chin, certainly not now. Ruiz can hit, but he wasnt a noted puncher. He slaughtered AJ, who gassed and didn't dispute the stoppage. Then he changed hes style to outbox Ruiz, not taking a chance to plant himself once for fear of being hit. You think he now just marches in through the reach disadvantage to stop Fury late, when Fury has better stamina also? How's he getting in? He's not much of a jabber. Hes shorter, has far inferior head movement, inferior stamina, and dented confidence. How does he do it?

[powershots]

Tyson Fury is gonna beat Josua's ass.

[Tyistall]

AJ got slaughtered by Ruiz and quit on hes feet, and struggled to even find Parker. Struggled to get by a one armed Whyte. He aint stopping Fury. But how to talk to a guy who thinks the Klitschko Fury fight was close?

The Klitschko Fury fight was the worst, most boring eyesore of a fight I've ever seen. I cannot rewatch it if I was paid to. And you conveniently forget to mention that AJ came back and pitched a shut out against Ruiz. And if he couldn't find Parker, it was because Parker ran from him the entire fight, refusing to engage. Also, don't call him Fury, call him Nandrolone Fury

[LoadedWraps]

AJ knows exactly how good Fury is.

Lol at that sig, please edit it and add Pacquiao and it will be perfect.