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  • #81
    Originally posted by Boxing-1013 View Post
    I think any honest person would admit GGG's run/comp level in those 20 fights was definitely higher than Bernard's. That says enough really, when comparing the two there

    Higher how?

    Im not saying hopkins 20 defenses were amazing. But tito alone would beat the hell out of adama, rosado, murray, geale, monroe, rolls, vanes, macklin, rubio and all those killers ggg beat...) Lmao

    Canelo, jacobs, dereavychencko, brook vs jones jr, Tito, Oscar, Taylor

    I'll take the latter

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    • #82
      Originally posted by Boxing-1013 View Post
      Canelo fought way different fights vs GGG and Floyd (and Lara). Floyd is credited with taking Canelo to school; Lara had great moments of skill vs Canelo; GGG had Canelo running scared for a lot of the first fight. So yes, taking him to places never been before is apt. Not sure why anyone would have such a pouty reaction to that comment.

      GGG-Jacobs was as easy a fight to score as any competitive fight I can remember. As evidenced by the 3 judges' cards being nearly identical really. 1 judge had it over after 8 rounds; the other 2 had it over after 9 rounds. The only real debatable round in the first ten was the 7th, and that was the only round the judges differed on.

      11 was similar to the 7th; and the 12th was typically hard (for me anyway) to score since it was a typical all heart/effort final round which usually means some good activity, sloppy punching, and difficulty (especially live) isolating exactly what landed clean etc, and who won the round.

      After the 9th (or 10th) round the judges seemed to officially throw Danny the last two rounds (5 out of 6 rounds from the judges' 3 cards), for his effort or for bonus points I suppose. Danny got 7 of 9 official points among the 7th, 11th and 12th rounds which was really very fortunate for 3 very close rounds. The clearest of those was probably the 12th for GGG which he only won on 1 card.

      When you get outlanded by 50 punches, outlanded in about 9 or 10 rounds, and get dropped, you don't deserve to win or even deserve to make a claim about winning. Especially when you are fighting in your own backyard.
      Originally posted by bluebeam View Post
      I already posted all 3 judges scorecards. 115-112 115-112 114-113

      None of them gave ggg 8 rounds so stop making **** up.

      And ggg took canelo to a place he never been? Where? To a win? Cause ggg has no wins over Canelo. Its clearly the opposite. Canelo took ggg to a place he bever been which is defeat. And he got his ass handed to him again by dereavychencko after that. The minute ggg fought real fighters. His career stalled.

      GGG career has nose dived since his rematch with canelo. He fought a bum in rolls. Then got beat up by dereavychencko. And now he about to fight another bum.

      Canelo has moved up 2 divisions since taking golovkins undefeated record.

      Its clear who been to places they never been.

      You dudes are boxer groupies instead of boxing fans. Call a spade a spade.
      Huh? I said 1 judge had the fight over after 8 rounds. All 3 judges had it over after 9 rounds. What's not to get? lol

      As I said before, people can think whatever they want about GGG. I think at minimum he was a consummate pro who destroyed good pros and never had an off night against them. That by itself is impressive and puts him up there with other greats all-time at 160. Just how it is man. Look at resumes/records if one really wants to. Most guys are about 50-50 vs other greats. Most pros dominate vs other good pros (and even have a few losses/controversies). I think GGG was a little better than that on both fronts but that's just how I saw it.

      And the only 'boxing groupie' here would be the guy(s) who insist Canelo actually won either of those fights lol. Everyone with any sense knows the deal - Canelo is the cash king in boxing and he paid GGG for his belts and zeroes (draw and loss). It is what it is. GGG got paid, Canelo got an official draw and win when he deserved 2 Ls. Everyone knows that except the real groupies dawg.

      Originally posted by bluebeam View Post
      Higher how?

      Im not saying hopkins 20 defenses were amazing. But tito alone would beat the hell out of adama, rosado, murray, geale, monroe, rolls, vanes, macklin, rubio and all those killers ggg beat...) Lmao

      Canelo, jacobs, dereavychencko, brook vs jones jr, Tito, Oscar, Taylor

      I'll take the latter
      Very hard to compare eras even when they are somewhat close by in years. I think you could make a case that RJJ, Felix, Oscar and Taylor twice are better fights than Canelo twice, Jacobs, Derevy and Brook/Murray. But I think most people would say they are very similar level fights.

      I would also say that Bhop's win over Glen Johnson would be on his list of accomplishments over a few of those fights you cited. Glen was undefeated at that time and that was a great win at that time. Tito and Oscar were not MWs and their records around those fights proved that. They were about 50-50 in their fights around the Bhop fight around that weight.

      I think you also have to factor in what you saw in those fights. And I saw GGG perform better in those fights than Bhop did. Bhop has 3 Ls whereas the only really close fight for GGG for me in those 5 is vs Derevy. GGG KOed basically all the 'other' guys, Bhop was about 50/50 with decisions and KOs, with some uninspiring performances. Fair to factor in Bhop's age vs Taylor as well though.

      I think GGG faced more solid comp in the other fights between the two at MW. Besides JDJ, Bhop's is a list of 'who'. It's basically littered with mandatory 'Dominic Wade' types. GGG for me at least has mostly solid pros on his list who were somewhat of a challenge. He just made them look like less of one because he was that dominant at the time (and they weren't top level).
      Last edited by Boxing-1013; 09-03-2020, 07:47 PM.

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      • #83
        Originally posted by Boxing-1013 View Post
        No offense but with the language barrier I never really understand what you're saying. If you consider Canelo the 2nd top contender GGG faced, I can only imagine how low you rate BHop's opposition at 160. I know you're a very neutral, not biased guy, so I'm sure you'll agree.
        your bias is whats making you write that.

        hurry up, I pointed this out first time.

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        • #84


          No mention of him in the Matchroom 2020 plans. Could be budget cutted like Canelo.

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          • #85
            Originally posted by Albanianboxing View Post
            Golovkin needs to get back in the ring ASAP!!! Is there any date or rumor of when he might fight again?
            - -Been retired all the evidence U need.

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            • #86
              Originally posted by Boxing-1013 View Post
              Huh? I said 1 judge had the fight over after 8 rounds. All 3 judges had it over after 9 rounds. What's not to get? lol

              As I said before, people can think whatever they want about GGG. I think at minimum he was a consummate pro who destroyed good pros and never had an off night against them. That by itself is impressive and puts him up there with other greats all-time at 160. Just how it is man. Look at resumes/records if one really wants to. Most guys are about 50-50 vs other greats. Most pros dominate vs other good pros (and even have a few losses/controversies). I think GGG was a little better than that on both fronts but that's just how I saw it.

              And the only 'boxing groupie' here would be the guy(s) who insist Canelo actually won either of those fights lol. Everyone with any sense knows the deal - Canelo is the cash king in boxing and he paid GGG for his belts and zeroes (draw and loss). It is what it is. GGG got paid, Canelo got an official draw and win when he deserved 2 Ls. Everyone knows that except the real groupies dawg.



              Very hard to compare eras even when they are somewhat close by in years. I think you could make a case that RJJ, Felix, Oscar and Taylor twice are better fights than Canelo twice, Jacobs, Derevy and Brook/Murray. But I think most people would say they are very similar level fights.

              I would also say that Bhop's win over Glen Johnson would be on his list of accomplishments over a few of those fights you cited. Glen was undefeated at that time and that was a great win at that time. Tito and Oscar were not MWs and their records around those fights proved that. They were about 50-50 in their fights around the Bhop fight around that weight.

              I think you also have to factor in what you saw in those fights. And I saw GGG perform better in those fights than Bhop did. Bhop has 3 Ls whereas the only really close fight for GGG for me in those 5 is vs Derevy. GGG KOed basically all the 'other' guys, Bhop was about 50/50 with decisions and KOs, with some uninspiring performances. Fair to factor in Bhop's age vs Taylor as well though.

              I think GGG faced more solid comp in the other fights between the two at MW. Besides JDJ, Bhop's is a list of 'who'. It's basically littered with mandatory 'Dominic Wade' types. GGG for me at least has mostly solid pros on his list who were somewhat of a challenge. He just made them look like less of one because he was that dominant at the time (and they weren't top level).

              Macklin, murray, adama, wade, monroe, rubio, lemiuex, rosado, proska, geale, rolls.

              None of them have a signature win. So how can i rank them as good wins for gennady when they have no notable wins before or after the ggg fight?


              And i defeinitely had canelo winning the rematch. Canelo came foward the whole fight amd golovkin was no monster. I had ggg winning the first fight tho

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              • #87
                Originally posted by bluebeam View Post
                Higher how?

                Im not saying hopkins 20 defenses were amazing. But tito alone would beat the hell out of adama, rosado, murray, geale, monroe, rolls, vanes, macklin, rubio and all those killers ggg beat...)

                I'll take the latter
                - -Canelo whoops all, but it's ok that U like squallin' Sissyboys.

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                • #88
                  Originally posted by Shadoww702 View Post
                  Dude Canelo in his second fight at 160 drew with a guy who was at MW his entire career.

                  That kind of sad. A great big guy should always beat a good lil guy.
                  second fight at a weight, don't see anything wrong in that & dude that wasn't a draw!!

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                  • #89
                    I am pretty sure Canelo and GGG will fight each other next in 2021.

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                    • #90
                      Originally posted by JakeTheBoxer View Post
                      I am pretty sure Canelo and GGG will fight each other next in 2021.
                      Wasn't Golovkin saying he was passing on that fight because he has obligations to Szeremeta?

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