Is there any date set for Gennady Golovkin next fight?

[TonyGe]

Higher how?

Im not saying hopkins 20 defenses were amazing. But tito alone would beat the hell out of adama, rosado, murray, geale, monroe, rolls, vanes, macklin, rubio and all those killers ggg beat...) Lmao

Canelo, jacobs, dereavychencko, brook vs jones jr, Tito, Oscar, Taylor

I'll take the latter

He might beat some of them but at Middleweight he wasn't all that. Trinidad was a very good fighter but Middleweight wasn't his division.

[R-Hand Southpaw]

Huh? I said 1 judge had the fight over after 8 rounds. All 3 judges had it over after 9 rounds. What's not to get? lol

As I said before, people can think whatever they want about GGG. I think at minimum he was a consummate pro who destroyed good pros and never had an off night against them. That by itself is impressive and puts him up there with other greats all-time at 160. Just how it is man. Look at resumes/records if one really wants to. Most guys are about 50-50 vs other greats. Most pros dominate vs other good pros (and even have a few losses/controversies). I think GGG was a little better than that on both fronts but that's just how I saw it.

And the only 'boxing groupie' here would be the guy(s) who insist Canelo actually won either of those fights lol. Everyone with any sense knows the deal - Canelo is the cash king in boxing and he paid GGG for his belts and zeroes (draw and loss). It is what it is. GGG got paid, Canelo got an official draw and win when he deserved 2 Ls. Everyone knows that except the real groupies dawg.



Very hard to compare eras even when they are somewhat close by in years. I think you could make a case that RJJ, Felix, Oscar and Taylor twice are better fights than Canelo twice, Jacobs, Derevy and Brook/Murray. But I think most people would say they are very similar level fights.

I would also say that Bhop's win over Glen Johnson would be on his list of accomplishments over a few of those fights you cited. Glen was undefeated at that time and that was a great win at that time. Tito and Oscar were not MWs and their records around those fights proved that. They were about 50-50 in their fights around the Bhop fight around that weight.

I think you also have to factor in what you saw in those fights. And I saw GGG perform better in those fights than Bhop did. Bhop has 3 Ls whereas the only really close fight for GGG for me in those 5 is vs Derevy. GGG KOed basically all the 'other' guys, Bhop was about 50/50 with decisions and KOs, with some uninspiring performances. Fair to factor in Bhop's age vs Taylor as well though.

I think GGG faced more solid comp in the other fights between the two at MW. Besides JDJ, Bhop's is a list of 'who'. It's basically littered with mandatory 'Dominic Wade' types. GGG for me at least has mostly solid pros on his list who were somewhat of a challenge. He just made them look like less of one because he was that dominant at the time (and they weren't top level).

The guys saying GGG is overhyped or overrated or just a bum can only state it as an opinion and cant support it with facts.

If anyone looked at when GGG was active all the guys who would have been "signature wins" and near every one of them refused to fight GGG.

Even Canelo camped out at 155 for years only to win the WBC 160 strap to drop it and hold out for longer.

Ask them to give you a list GGG avoided the absolute best they can do is come up with two names.

Lara, who is a career 154 guy and Ward, who declined the fight in 2013 only to "offer" a fight in 2015.

Neither guy was in the same division as GGG and they also can't give you a time table of when these fights could have happened.

At least GGG did the best he could and im pretty sure every guy in between his titles were ranked top 10 at the time at 160.

The only exception is Brook and GGG didnt even ask for that fight. He was signed to fight Eubank Jr only to have him back out.

But all the Canelo groupies applaud Canelo for hand picking Khan and moving him up two divisions and knocking him out easy lmfaooooooooo

[Boxing-1013]

your bias is whats making you write that.

hurry up, I pointed this out first time.

The flowers on the side of the road are harsh but clear. Tomorrow starts a factional discourse immediately.

[Boxing-1013]

The guys saying GGG is overhyped or overrated or just a bum can only state it as an opinion and cant support it with facts.

If anyone looked at when GGG was active all the guys who would have been "signature wins" and near every one of them refused to fight GGG.

Even Canelo camped out at 155 for years only to win the WBC 160 strap to drop it and hold out for longer.

Ask them to give you a list GGG avoided the absolute best they can do is come up with two names.

Lara, who is a career 154 guy and Ward, who declined the fight in 2013 only to "offer" a fight in 2015.

Neither guy was in the same division as GGG and they also can't give you a time table of when these fights could have happened.

At least GGG did the best he could and im pretty sure every guy in between his titles were ranked top 10 at the time at 160.

The only exception is Brook and GGG didnt even ask for that fight. He was signed to fight Eubank Jr only to have him back out.

But all the Canelo groupies applaud Canelo for hand picking Khan and moving him up two divisions and knocking him out easy lmfaooooooooo

Hey man you get it. GGG wasn't a perfect fighter but he was really really good and didn't really have many holes in his game. Just a great fighter in any era

[Thuglife Nelo]

Hey man you get it. GGG wasn't a perfect fighter but he was really really good and didn't really have many holes in his game. Just a great fighter in any era

He doesn’t get anything other than being a Mary Cone. Willing to be he’s Fap Fap Boom’s alt. Just crying over criticisms over GGG. Even GGG’s wife yells “Mary Cone, dinner’s ready!” She even yells in Spanish and the neighbors laugh!

[Boxing-1013]

Macklin, murray, adama, wade, monroe, rubio, lemiuex, rosado, proska, geale, rolls.

None of them have a signature win. So how can i rank them as good wins for gennady when they have no notable wins before or after the ggg fight?


And i defeinitely had canelo winning the rematch. Canelo came foward the whole fight amd golovkin was no monster. I had ggg winning the first fight tho

Wade and Rolls wouldn't be really notable as 'wins' for me. As for the other guys (and quite a few more), I think they were all solid pros, all different styles, all in their relative primes, ready for the fight. I look also at what GGG did to them vs what they did vs say Sergio or other good/great fighters around that time.

Ishida for example - solid pro, KOed Kirkland. Went 24 rounds just prior to GGG fight, with Paul Williams and Pirog. Then he fights GGG and gets taken out in 3 rounds, his only KO defeat of his career. There are just a lot of instances like that for GGG where he really dominated against guys like that who were solid, and proved that they were solid against other guys.

To run through all of them with no issues at all is impressive to me. When I've studied other fighters who have similar matchups, they usually 'struggle' or lose in a couple of those types of fights out of 10.

To put it another way, BHop had 7 fights at 160 vs Robert Allen (3), Antwun Echols (2) and Mercado (2). Adding in a few more guys like that, like half of BHop's run at 160 were Rolls and Wade types. Amateur type guys who weren't really solid pros. I think GGG had just a couple of fights like that (Rolls and Wade) in his run.

Idk man I thought Canelo fought well in both fights really. Was impressed with him in different ways in both fights. But to me he had the same problem in both. Fought well in spurts, and had some good shots landed. But he was outworked basically every round, which gave GGG some clear rounds and made for some close rounds where Canelo landed the best shot or combo of the round.

I've watched those fights a number of times and I honestly can't recall coming away from any round saying 'OK clear Canelo round'. GGG has just been a tough matchup for him because GGG is so active and always scoring and Canelo has always fought in spurts.

[Boxing-1013]

He doesn’t get anything other than being a Mary Cone. Willing to be he’s Fap Fap Boom’s alt. Just crying over criticisms over GGG. Even GGG’s wife yells “Mary Cone, dinner’s ready!” She even yells in Spanish and the neighbors laugh!

As usual I have no idea what you're talking about

[Thuglife Nelo]

As usual I have no idea what you're talking about

I don’t know who u are.. waiting for Mary Cone to respond, not you...

[DreamFighter]

He might beat some of them but at Middleweight he wasn't all that. Trinidad was a very good fighter but Middleweight wasn't his division.

Joppy win tops GGG's entire career set of wins.

sure but based on Tito winning the same amount of MW titles in the ring as GGG at the same stage of their career, hes not anything at MW.

so MW wasnt GGG's division either....it was even less GGG's division!

[TonyGe]

Joppy win tops GGG's entire career set of wins.

sure but based on Tito winning the same amount of MW titles in the ring as GGG at the same stage of their career, hes not anything at MW.

so MW wasnt GGG's division either....it was even less GGG's division!

Because Middleweight wasn't his division doesn't mean Trinidad wasn't a great fighter. He was. There is no doubt about that. His problem was the bigger men at Middleweight could take his power which he relied on to even things out after he got knocked down which happened a lot. He moved up once too many times and the guys up there were too big and too good for him.