Who will be the face of boxing after Canelo?

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  • Mindgames
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    #31
    Originally posted by Turpin Kru
    WADA revised Clenbuterol. Imagine if the Judicial system said, ''eh, we should revise Murder...'' lol.
    I think that's coming in November lol

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    • LoadedWraps
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      #32
      Originally posted by Turpin Kru
      Some posters claim you're South American. It's no surprise those other South American countries don't fancy Mexico. I'm going to bet you're Argentinian! They are the biggest Euro riders in South America.
      What does that have to do with anything? Nationalism is cancerous in sports. IDGAF where a fighter is from.

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      • Thuglife Nelo
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        #33
        Originally posted by LoadedWraps
        What does that have to do with anything? Nationalism is cancerous in sports. IDGAF where a fighter is from.
        Nationalism is cancerous? Yet that’s the point of the Olympics and the FIFA World Cup innit

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        • Citizen Koba
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          #34
          Vegas wants a relatively good looking Mexican or Mex-American cos thats what brings in the most money, most relaibly, twice a year. The WBC will do their best to oblige by making sure all the likely candidates get the best opportunities (and, if necessary, the right scorecards).

          A Latino / hispanic of a different nationality would be a semi-acceptable alternative or if there's really no close competitiors a dude of another ethnicity - probably Black - who can play the role of the guy the paying fans want to see get beat.

          I think that pretty much sums up what I like to call the 'Vegas Superstar' model. I don't personally believe it's good for the sport, or at all fair, but it certainly lines some pockets very effectively which is what really drives this ish in the end.

          Ryan Garcia is the front runner right now cos of his looks. Even though Vergil Ortiz is the better fighter he's kinda goofy looking so probably won't be groomed quite as hard although the WBC factory always has a number of possiblilities, back-ups and fail-safes in mind.
          Last edited by Citizen Koba; 08-30-2020, 03:46 AM.

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            #35
            Originally posted by Citizen Koba
            Vegas wants a relatively good looking Mexican or Mex-American cos thats what brings in the most money, most relaibly, twice a year. The WBC will do their best to oblige by making sure all the likely candidates get the best opportunities.

            A Latino / hispanic of a different nationality would be a semi-acceptable alternative or if there's really no close competitiors a dude of another ethnicity - probably Black - who can play the role of the guy the paying fans want to see get beat.

            I think that pretty much sums up what I like to call the 'Vegas Superstar' model. I don't personally believe it's good for the sport, or at all fair, but it certainly lines some pockets very effectively which is what really drives this ish in the end.

            Ryan Garcia is the front runner right now cos of his looks. Even though Vergil Ortiz is the better fighter he's kinda goofy looking so probably won't be groomed quite as hard although the WBC factory always has a number of possiblilities, back-ups and fail-safes in mind.
            but much of the UFC was Vegas based. Rarely any Mexican stars. Vegas got nothing to do with ''Mexican.'' The BEST in the sport fight in Vegas. It's just that Canelo has had a HUGE following since before 2010.

            The GOAL for promoters hyping their players is simply for whatever they can profit off the venue and TICKET PRICING.

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            • Citizen Koba
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              #36
              Originally posted by Mindgames
              I think that's coming in November lol
              A wry observation, man.

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              • Citizen Koba
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                #37
                Originally posted by Turpin Kru
                but much of the UFC was Vegas based. Rarely any Mexican stars. Vegas got nothing to do with ''Mexican.'' The BEST in the sport fight in Vegas. It's just that Canelo has had a HUGE following since before 2010.

                The GOAL for promoters hyping their players is simply for whatever they can profit off the venue and TICKET PRICING.
                Boxing has a much bigger following amongst Mexicans than MMA, man. You know full well I pretty much got the truth of it right above... that's just the way it is. It's not a strategy based on irrational Nationalistic bias it's just what makes the most money for Vegas and a few other key players.

                ..And that ain't a sleight on Mexicans and Mexican fighters... why shouldn't they do the best they can outta the real money guys? But it is a pretty harsh condemnation of the way the sport is run.
                Last edited by Citizen Koba; 08-30-2020, 03:56 AM.

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                  #38
                  Originally posted by Citizen Koba
                  Boxing has a much bigger following amongst Mexicans than MMA, man. You know full well I pretty much got the truth of it right above... that's just the way it is. It's not a strategy based on irrational Nationalistic bias it's just what makes the most money for Vegas and a few other key players.

                  ..And that ain't a sleight on Mexicans and Mexican fighters... why shouldn't they do the best they can outta the real money guys? But it is a pretty harsh condemnation of the way the sport is run.
                  So what other Mexican fighters are bringing huge gate sales to Vegas? Which promotions? What current promoters before the pandemic we’re staging Mexican fights in Vegas with industry news reporting huge ticket sales?

                  Canelo is an icon. It’s the fighter.

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                  • Citizen Koba
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                    #39
                    Originally posted by Turpin Kru
                    So what other Mexican fighters are bringing huge gate sales to Vegas? Which promotions? What current promoters before the pandemic we’re staging Mexican fights in Vegas with industry news reporting huge ticket sales?

                    Canelo is an icon. It’s the fighter.
                    The model was really established with DLH, man, passed to Floyd cos there was really no other choice and Arum still had a virtual stranglehold, but it was clear the hope was to do a torch-passing at the ealrliest opportunity. Despite the best efforts of whoever was behind Ross' scorecard it didn't work out however. Mexican or Mexican American fighters bring in the most money to those who count man. That's all it is. C'mon man, you're too bright not to acknowledge the truth of what I'm observing here.

                    S'all about the $$$s man. You know this.
                    Last edited by Citizen Koba; 08-30-2020, 04:21 AM.

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                      #40
                      Originally posted by Turpin Kru
                      but much of the UFC was Vegas based.
                      very different fanbase demographics.

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