Why can`t Crawford be the next Mayweather?

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  • b Murphington
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    #81
    Mayweather has bigger name opponents.

    But honestly, right now, it’ll be hard to repeat what Mayweather did to become a superstar in the sport.

    To be catapulted into superstardom, Crawford would have to beat the biggest Mexican star in boxing today, so he would have to beat Canelo. Obviously that’s not going to happen.

    What I’m getting at, is you gotta beat the guy with the biggest fanbase. Right now, I think the guy with the biggest fanbase is Canelo. He’s the Mexican star. Floyd beat De La Hoya. Oscar was the biggest Mexican star and that win catapulted Floyd to superstar status.

    Unfortunately, there’s no one near Crawford’s weight that has the same star power and ethnic background as De La Hoya. The closest thing to that is Canelo.

    That’s just the way boxing works these days.

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      #82
      Originally posted by b morph
      Mayweather has bigger name opponents.

      But honestly, right now, it’ll be hard to repeat what Mayweather did to become a superstar in the sport.

      To be catapulted into superstardom, Crawford would have to beat the biggest Mexican star in boxing today, so he would have to beat Canelo. Obviously that’s not going to happen.

      What I’m getting at, is you gotta beat the guy with the biggest fanbase. Right now, I think the guy with the biggest fanbase is Canelo. He’s the Mexican star. Floyd beat De La Hoya. Oscar was the biggest Mexican star and that win catapulted Floyd to superstar status.

      Unfortunately, there’s no one near Crawford’s weight that has the same star power and ethnic background as De La Hoya. The closest thing to that is Canelo.

      That’s just the way boxing works these days.
      Floyd was wildly ambitious and made it real

      Crawford isn’t showing the same ambition. There’s no urgency from Crawford

      Young Mayweather wanted to fight Mosley Tszyu ODLH and many more

      Crawford is slow to fight guys who aren’t even HOF level let alone very good or greats

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        #83




        Crawford is boring af compared to Mayweather.

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          #84
          Originally posted by bballchump11
          https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kxb9AUmSrIA



          Crawford is boring af compared to Mayweather.
          Where does bball see Spence and Crawford maxing our in ability? Alvarez level? Miguel Cotto level?

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            #85
            Originally posted by GrandpaBernard
            Where does bball see Spence and Crawford maxing our in ability? Alvarez level? Miguel Cotto level?
            Hard to say really. I sorta need to see them vs Pacquiao just to see how they compare to a relic from the previous era.

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            • Carpe Diem
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              #86
              It’s not even about charisma. Floyd’s outside the ring antics did played a huge factor and people wanted to see him lose in the ring, but deep down inside they knew that he was a “once in a lifetime” type of boxer in terms of being an overall package. Whereas with Crawford, he’s shown that he’s good and P4P material, but he just doesn’t capture the eyes of the fans with his skills the way Floyd did. By the same age, a lot of celebrities knew who Floyd was mainly because of his in-ring abilities. Crawford is really good, but he simply doesn’t that “It” factor aura in the ring.

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                #87
                Originally posted by b morph
                Mayweather has bigger name opponents.

                But honestly, right now, it’ll be hard to repeat what Mayweather did to become a superstar in the sport.

                To be catapulted into superstardom, Crawford would have to beat the biggest Mexican star in boxing today, so he would have to beat Canelo. Obviously that’s not going to happen.

                What I’m getting at, is you gotta beat the guy with the biggest fanbase. Right now, I think the guy with the biggest fanbase is Canelo. He’s the Mexican star. Floyd beat De La Hoya. Oscar was the biggest Mexican star and that win catapulted Floyd to superstar status.

                Unfortunately, there’s no one near Crawford’s weight that has the same star power and ethnic background as De La Hoya. The closest thing to that is Canelo.

                That’s just the way boxing works these days.
                - -JoyBoy "beat" nobody.

                He out touched and out tickled them in his adopted hometown notorious for corruption and crime...

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                  #88
                  Originally posted by GrandpaBernard
                  Based on eye test Crawford is a Miguel Cotto level fighter

                  Very good and has shaky moments. Neither totally dominates their opponents

                  Difference being Cotto is tested against greats and is competitive with them

                  Levels: Floyd/Roy > manny > ODLH/Alvarez > Cotto/Crawford

                  Very good but shy of great
                  ^^^^This.....

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                    #89
                    Originally posted by R-Hand Southpaw
                    Mayweather retired for over a year so he didnt have to give ODLH a rematch in a close fight he won by MD. Who does that?

                    Mayweather also retired when competition got stiff at 147 and let those guys take care of each other before returning.

                    That would be like if Lomachenko walked away last year and let Lopez, Garcia, Haney, and co to all fight each other only to come back later.

                    Everyone would say he's avoiding tough fights but why is Mayweather different in this regard?

                    In my opinion Mayweather would get less criticism if he didn't personally claim himself as TBE but guess what? He truly believes it despite the fact he owns the fact he calls the shots.

                    And the shots he calls? More PR than actual substance.

                    Its an overarching narrative of his carrer that ended with just that. PR. AKA Mayweather vs McGregor.

                    I would have loved to see Mayweather tested and see what he has, like really tested, but the biggest problem is that I know he would never put himself in that situation to begin with which is why i don't think highly of Mayweather.

                    As the clear A side he had plenty of opportunities to fight the best at their best but didnt.

                    Hes a businessman first, an entertainer second, and a boxer didn't.

                    Compare Mayweather to Lomachenko in how they think about the sport. Im old school and so is Lomachenko. The guy is fighting everyone he can and isn't making excuses like Floyd.

                    Yet somehow Lomachenkos resume pales because he doesn't have "big names".

                    Do you get what I'm trying to say?
                    lomo is 32 and his resume is trash in comparison to Floyd's at 32, FOH
                    Last edited by mcdonalds; 09-14-2020, 05:58 PM.

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                      #90
                      Originally posted by Carpe Diem
                      It’s not even about charisma. Floyd’s outside the ring antics did played a huge factor and people wanted to see him lose in the ring, but deep down inside they knew that he was a “once in a lifetime” type of boxer in terms of being an overall package. Whereas with Crawford, he’s shown that he’s good and P4P material, but he just doesn’t capture the eyes of the fans with his skills the way Floyd did. By the same age, a lot of celebrities knew who Floyd was mainly because of his in-ring abilities. Crawford is really good, but he simply doesn’t that “It” factor aura in the ring.
                      - -Factoid!

                      Manny on PPV before JoyBoy.

                      JoyBoy took short $ vs Gatti and Oscar to retire in the middle of their lucrative rematch promotions claiming he'd no longer work for slave wages after becoming a billionaire.

                      Makes a comeback vs PreBALCO Juan and Mosely for peanuts after ducking Oscar and Manny fortunes that the IRS seizes.

                      What grade U in?

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