Comments Thread For: Fury: Hearn Was Trying To Protect Joshua By Putting Whyte in The Way

[Bunch Pag]

Whyte was beating Povetkin up, that's not even debatable. The body shots where hurting Povetkin and he was slowing down. The punch that caught Dillian was the best punch Povetkin has every thrown in his life and it shocked every single person watching. I will say here and now, that punch was lucky and it will never land in the rematch. Mark my words.

Whyte was well up for me.. why are you suggesting I'm debating that?

You said it was a lucky punch..

There was no luck whatsoever with that punch. He set Whyte up perfectly.. makes no odds if it was his best punch ever or his second, third, fourth best.. he meant it.

He shouldn't have had the chance to land that punch, but because he's predictable and not one of the top boxers he allowed Povetkin to stay in the game... Whyte should have finished the fight off, he didn't and got the award for sparko of 2020..

[factsarenice]

He doesn't fight for money. He fights for honour, dignity and glory. It wasn't the money that he wanted but the championship title belts that AJ had. "One face, one name and one champion". That's what he wants. Whyte has nothing Wilder wants. Which is why he never fought him.

Whyte was Wilder's #1 mandatory for the only belt Wilder had and Wilder avoided Whyte for years. That's true. Wilder also turned down all the belts and more money than he has made in his lifetime to avoid AJ. Also true. People can deny it if they so choose but that doesn't change the hard facts.

As for dignity and honor in the same sentance as "I want to kill a man in the ring" is an insult to intellect. Wilder has zero dignity and absolutely no honor at all, nada, zip as in none. The WBC should have given the belt to the blinking outfit that Wilder claims beat him in the ring.

[skinny kenny]

Fury got popped cheating and refused to fight the rematch so he quit rather than face the music. Personally I think Joshua should tell Fury to go ^&ck himself and let him keep making peanuts fighting nobodies. I'd keep my three REAL belts and continued to make 50 to 80 million a pop. But, unlike Fury, Joshua wants to prove he's the best fighting the best in their prime. So be it.

dude i don't mind most of what you are saying but not even floyd was making 50- 80 million a pop. maybe one time that much or more or max 2-3.

[factsarenice]

Whyte was well up for me.. why are you suggesting I'm debating that?

You said it was a lucky punch..

There was no luck whatsoever with that punch. He set Whyte up perfectly.. makes no odds if it was his best punch ever or his second, third, fourth best.. he meant it.

He shouldn't have had the chance to land that punch, but because he's predictable and not one of the top boxers he allowed Povetkin to stay in the game... Whyte should have finished the fight off, he didn't and got the award for sparko of 2020..

You make a good case but I don't think that punch will be there in the rematch. That said, the fight will be extremely tight and could still go either way and not because of skills but because Povetkin is a bad style for Whyte.

[factsarenice]

dude i don't mind most of what you are saying but not even floyd was making 50- 80 million a pop. maybe one time that much or more or max 2-3.

The point I was trying to make was that AJ is the cash cow of the division. Keep in mind, AJ was worth 250 million before the 85 million dollar pay day. AJ could easily fight Povetkin or Whyte next and still make a guaranteed 8- 10 million.

[champion4ever]

Except in 2018 Wilders best win after Stiverne was Washington, so your telling me he shrugged off Whyte for a very big payday because he defeated killers like that ? Ha

Whyte was Wilder's #1 mandatory for the only belt Wilder had and Wilder avoided Whyte for years. That's true. Wilder also turned down all the belts and more money than he has made in his lifetime to avoid AJ. Also true. People can deny it if they so choose but that doesn't change the hard facts.

As for dignity and honor in the same sentance as "I want to kill a man in the ring" is an insult to intellect. Wilder has zero dignity and absolutely no honor at all, nada, zip as in none. The WBC should have given the belt to the blinking outfit that Wilder claims beat him in the ring.

That's a lie. Whyte was never Wilder's mandatory challenger for his WBC heavyweight title because Dillian kept avoiding his WBC Final eliminator bouts. What I think you probably meant was that he was the number one contender for over a thousand days to Wilder's WBC title belt which is true.

Also, as far as Anthony Joshua is concerned; Wilder turned down the DAZN deal because AJ originally ducked him when they had tentatively agreed to a fight back in 2018 until Joshua pulled out.

Moreover, Deontay was over Matchroom and Joshua at that time because he no longer trusted them because they had proven that were not men of their word. Besides, he was too busy chasing unfinished business with an immediate rematch of Tyson Fury at the time.

However, the irony is Joshua wanted no parts of Deontay Wilder until Fury had the gall and intestinal fortitude to fight him first. So why did it take Tyson Fury to fight Deontay Wilder before Anthony Joshua grew a ball sack to want to fight him in 2019?

As far as honor goes, Wilder fought Luis Ortiz twice. Something that no other opponent has done. He gave him an opportunity to fight for the title and earn some good money. Even after he was suspended on su****ion of popping dirty for PEDS. Even after Anthony Joshua ducked him in 2017?

I've noticed that you decided to respond to me from an alternate account REEDEEMER/factsarenice. Who are you Michael Montero?

[skinny kenny]

Whyte would be the second prime top fighter if Wilder defeated him . The only top level guy in his prime that wilder defeated was Stiverne at the time in 2015 which went the distance.

ortiz is profoundly better than dillian and povetkin and each of them and their teams know it. but povetkin would at least take the fight.

[ArturoBalboa]

Whyte was beating Povetkin up, that's not even debatable. The body shots where hurting Povetkin and he was slowing down. The punch that caught Dillian was the best punch Povetkin has every thrown in his life and it shocked every single person watching. I will say here and now, that punch was lucky and it will never land in the rematch. Mark my words.

Come on man, that was a beautiful shot, you’re totally disrespecting the ring craft calling that lucky.

That’s like me watching maradona take the ball past half the England team and put it in the net and calling it a lucky goal because it’s unlikely he ever scores a goal like that again.

[skinny kenny]

Except in 2018 Wilders best win after Stiverne was Washington, so your telling me he shrugged off Whyte for a very big payday because he defeated killers like that ? Ha

wilder fought ortiz in 2018, march 3rd. breazelle was the mando almost immediately after stiverne 2, not whyte.

whyte was number 1 because he beat helenius in 2017 for silver belt. not mando eliminator and whyte and hearn always knew that.

acting like you don' t see ortiz doesn't make him disappear

[Bunch Pag]

You make a good case but I don't think that punch will be there in the rematch. That said, the fight will be extremely tight and could still go either way and not because of skills but because Povetkin is a bad style for Whyte.

You would hope Whyte learns and tris to change from being so predictable.

The rematch could go the same way and Povetkin may not recover from the 2 knock-downs to k.o Whyte.. it's boxing..