Sorry, this heavyweight era is really poor

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  • Froch_uppercut
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    #21
    Originally posted by JakeTheBoxer
    40+ old Povetkin in terrible shape, knocks old cold top 5-6 contender, 32 old?

    Klitschko beat the same Povetkin 7 years ago.

    Only Fury is probably good there, others are all very average. Joshua is probably like Bruno 2.0.

    Could be Michael Grant was better than Wilder.
    Nah. When.two good guys fight each other one will lose - that doesn't mean he was crap.
    Wilder fans wouldn't know this cos he fought chumps for years. Fury guilty too. We won't know how good Fury is till he fight AJ, Povetkin, Whyte etc.

    Also, modern fans simply write off a guy after a loss or two - this is ****** and is an evolution of Mayweather's shenanigans picking and choosing opponents to preserve his 0.

    Whyte is still a top guy, and measures up with any of today's top guys, where no better or worse than those who came before them.

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    • dan_cov
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      #22
      A fat, old Foreman maybe but he was still an absolute beast by any standards an in the nicest way possible a total freak of nature.

      But yh lets not act like that is bad, embarrassing or something when you have a ****ing doorman becoming a HW titleholder in this era and someone so morbidly obese they get sponsored by Snickers ffs

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        #23
        Fury is the new dominant force at HW.

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        • Damn Wicked
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          #24
          Originally posted by Kezzer
          This is one of the better eras. Why people like to discredit I have no idea.

          Go back in history and show me an era within the heavyweight division which didn’t include shocks or losses to the top end fighters?

          There are many on here who massively underrated Povetkin on this forum but he is still a top quality fighter, there was clearly a question on his age. His performance against AJ, despite being knocked out - showed that he was still a good quality fighter capable of beating anyone in any individual night.

          Despite what many would consider a top3 of Joshua, fury and wilder - there are others who can beat any of them with the right punch whether fans want to believe some are invincible or not.
          You are right on the money. These are the biggest heavyweights in this era and they're not like the previous, uncoordinated, slow big heavyweights from the past. Even the highly regarded 70's heavyweight era with god-like stars like Muhammed Ali were beat by cruiserweight type fighters and small heavyweights. Many people thought Ken Norton should have gotten the nod against Ali 2 times. Nostalgia is a disease.

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          • LoadedWraps
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            #25
            Originally posted by JakeTheBoxer
            40+ old Povetkin in terrible shape, knocks old cold top 5-6 contender, 32 old?

            Klitschko beat the same Povetkin 7 years ago.

            Only Fury is probably good there, others are all very average. Joshua is probably like Bruno 2.0.

            Could be Michael Grant was better than Wilder.

            This is a deeper era than the 80s. You really do post some nonsense sometimes.

            All you do is bash Povetkin after one of the best wins of his career and a KOOTY candidate. If you don't want to watch fighters above 20 then don't. Your ignorant and uninformed takes on fighters in their 40s is tired and ******. What will it take for you to learn that age isn't as significant as you make it out to be? Who cares how old Whyte was. He got caught with a perfect shot, and tremendous punch, almost any man goes down there. To argue otherwise is to fundamentally misunderstand boxing.

            Your assessment of average is awful.

            Fury
            Usyk
            Wilder
            Povetkin
            Hunter
            Ortiz
            Coffie
            Ajagba
            Helenius

            All elite fighters who compete in most eras, especially Fury, Usyk, and Ortiz. All 3 are technically outstanding and have high ring IQ.

            AJ
            Ruiz Jr
            Kownacki
            Whyte
            Miller
            Arreola

            All fundamentally sound, world class fighters who can beat anyone on a good night and prove a test to others in the division.


            The HW division is on fire right now, people are watching and it has the attention of not only the boxing community but the casual masses now as well.

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            • boliodogs
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              #26
              Originally posted by JakeTheBoxer
              40+ old Povetkin in terrible shape, knocks old cold top 5-6 contender, 32 old?

              Klitschko beat the same Povetkin 7 years ago.

              Only Fury is probably good there, others are all very average. Joshua is probably like Bruno 2.0.

              Could be Michael Grant was better than Wilder.
              It is not that great and not that bad either. Povetkin was in shape and Wilder is better than Grant ever was in my opinion and I saw hem bot fight many times. The retired boxers get better every year after retirement in people's minds as a rule. That just seems to be the way most fight fans think. I think Fury would be a top contender in any era.Maybe he would not be the champ but he would be at the top level.

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              • 01samuelc
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                #27
                Fast eddeh is one of the greatest promoters of all time. Most of these guys are barely above domestic level at best.

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                • JakeTheBoxer
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                  #28
                  I can see Povetkin beating everybody except Joshua and Tyson Fury.

                  Sorry, Ruiz, Ortiz, parker and others can all lose to old Povetkin.

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                  • Boxxymcboxface
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                    #29
                    You think this era is poor? Have you seen the last era of heavyweights? Freakin John Ruiz hugging his way to a title belt. We are in a good era. A strong era with lasting personalities and talents.

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                    • JakeTheBoxer
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                      #30
                      Originally posted by Boxxymcboxface
                      You think this era is poor? Have you seen the last era of heavyweights? Freakin John Ruiz hugging his way to a title belt. We are in a good era. A strong era with lasting personalities and talents.
                      Yes, I believe era is not very strong, because I have seen prime Povetkin hiding and fighting guys like Huck, Wawrzyk..while waiting Klitschko fight...

                      But now, past prime old Povetkin comes forward to all top contenders..

                      Or you actually think 40 old Povetkin is better than 33 old was?

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