Teofimo Lopez will lose by KO/TKO

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  • Goldie
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    #71
    Originally posted by whollisboxing
    Ok, let's say he got the title shot in his 3rd fight due to corruption and favoritism. I'll give you that but he still had to win the fight and he won clean.

    Take a look at the top 10 at 135 on Boxrec. Loma is the only guy to beat two people on that list. Now he's facing the only other guy to beat one person on that list. The rest of them have yet to face each other. And yes, I know that guys like Garcia, Haney, and Tank are younger so of course they have time to change that. I'm just talking about where things stand right now.

    We can find things to criticize about any fighter if we look hard enough, I just wanted to give an objective take.
    Well I pointed out how favoritism played a part in him even getting a title shot to win in his 3rd fight because you bragged on it. If you can acknowledge that corruption/favoritism has played a part in his rise then why brag on it? He fought for a vacant title in his 3rd fight immediately after a loss in his 2nd fight. He didn’t even beat a sitting champion.

    I’m not even criticizing loma, I just point out that he gets favoritism from fans, the media, and the sport itself.

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    • STREET CLEANER
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      #72
      Originally posted by Cypocryphy
      I'm sure Linares would have loved to have heard this from you, seeing as how he fought Loma weighing the same as a welterweight. Then again, I believe he thought that he, a good, bigger guy, was going to overcome Loma, so it probably wouldn't have made a hell of a lot of difference.
      Linares chin is unreliable. Lopez's chin is unknown.

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      • Cypocryphy
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        #73
        Originally posted by STREET CLEANER
        Linares chin is unreliable. Lopez's chin is unknown.

        Linares chin is not as bad as some think it is. There've been two KOs that were legit. One really, in my mind.

        Cano's knockout was legit.

        Juan Salgado's KO was weird. It was legit but was odd because Linares seemed to have suffered a flash knockdown in round one. Then, after the ref gave him an eight count in his corner, Linares adjusted his trunks. After adjusting his trunks, he looked up and Salgado was already in his corner, hitting him as if by surprise. That resulted in the TKO.

        Demarco's TKO was weird, too. Linares had a really bad cut on the ridge of his nose. It happened early in the fight. Linares was winning easily on the score cards. Then his corner messed up with the cut, dropping the q-tip with vaseline. In the 12th round, the judge stopped the fight because the excess bleeding didn't allow Jorge to see the punches.

        The other one was a fight in Mexico. (His name was Sergio Thomson.) This was the worst one because it looked like a corrupt call. Linares was buzzed; the ref told him to see the doctor, and the doctor, within one second (without looking at Linares), waived the fight off. You could see how confused Linares was. That's what happens when a non-Mexican fighter fights in Mexico.

        Then there was the body blow by Lomachenko. But that wasn't his chin.

        The point is that his chin isn't so bad as everyone thinks, and he does not cut up as easily as is claimed. His worst cut was on the top of his nose.

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        • STREET CLEANER
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          #74
          Originally posted by Cypocryphy
          Linares chin is not as bad as some think it is. There've been two KOs that were legit. One really, in my mind.

          Cano's knockout was legit.

          Juan Salgado's KO was weird. It was legit but was odd because Linares seemed to have suffered a flash knockdown in round one. Then, after the ref gave him an eight count in his corner, Linares adjusted his trunks. After adjusting his trunks, he looked up and Salgado was already in his corner, hitting him as if by surprise. That resulted in the TKO.

          Demarco's TKO was weird, too. Linares had a really bad cut on the ridge of his nose. It happened early in the fight. Linares was winning easily on the score cards. Then his corner messed up with the cut, dropping the q-tip with vaseline. In the 12th round, the judge stopped the fight because the excess bleeding didn't allow Jorge to see the punches.

          The other one was a fight in Mexico. (His name was Sergio Thomson.) This was the worst one because it looked like a corrupt call. Linares was buzzed; the ref told him to see the doctor, and the doctor, within one second (without looking at Linares), waived the fight off. You could see how confused Linares was. That's what happens when a non-Mexican fighter fights in Mexico.

          Then there was the body blow by Lomachenko. But that wasn't his chin.

          The point is that his chin isn't so bad as everyone thinks, and he does not cut up as easily as is claimed. His worst cut was on the top of his nose.
          He is a good boxer and he can protect it to a certain extent. He can be ahead on a fight and just get KOed. Its unreliable, all of his loses are by KO. I like the guy but his chin is his biggest weak spot. Same thing with Jhonny Gonzalez. Another unreliable chin.
          Last edited by STREET CLEANER; 08-23-2020, 02:43 PM.

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          • whollisboxing
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            #75
            Originally posted by Goldie
            Well I pointed out how favoritism played a part in him even getting a title shot to win in his 3rd fight because you bragged on it. If you can acknowledge that corruption/favoritism has played a part in his rise then why brag on it? He fought for a vacant title in his 3rd fight immediately after a loss in his 2nd fight. He didn’t even beat a sitting champion.

            I’m not even criticizing loma, I just point out that he gets favoritism from fans, the media, and the sport itself.
            I didn't brag on it. I acknowledged that you're right and there are definitely fighters who get opportunities over other fighters. I simply pointed out that he still had to win the fight and he won it cleanly. Maybe favoritism got him the opportunity but his skills got him the victory. I would also point out that Gary Russell Jr was an extremely risky fight coming off of a loss and he pulled it off.

            If you don't feel like he deserved the fight in the first place then I certainly understand that point of view and I do my best to be objective.

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              #76
              Originally posted by Tatabanya
              Not a good comparison in terms of seriousness and overall value.

              Azumah Nelson was a humble, focused champion, and is an ATG.

              Hot head Lopez - especially if he loses to Lomachenko - will become a footnote sooner than we think.

              Kosta Tszyu the same..

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                #77
                Originally posted by Lomadeaux
                Lmfao.... you ****ing clowns never get old. Ever. We'll discuss this when Loma stops Lopez.
                Or Lopez stops Loma!

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                  #78
                  Originally posted by Lomadeaux
                  LMAO. What are you happy about it? LMAO. Dude fought for a world title in his second pro fight... let the dude be 25 pounds more than him and got fouled the entire night. And almost got him out of there in the 12th.

                  You little boys are hysterical.
                  Lil boys LMAO I’m prolly older than you, and I got a pic with Salido at the weigh ins he wasn’t over weight that much at the weigh-ins just couldn’t get it off, and even with the low blows Loma didn’t do enough to secure a victory, maybe next time!

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                  • BoxingIsGreat
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                    #79
                    Originally posted by Cypocryphy
                    Linares chin is not as bad as some think it is. There've been two KOs that were legit. One really, in my mind.

                    Cano's knockout was legit.

                    Juan Salgado's KO was weird. It was legit but was odd because Linares seemed to have suffered a flash knockdown in round one. Then, after the ref gave him an eight count in his corner, Linares adjusted his trunks. After adjusting his trunks, he looked up and Salgado was already in his corner, hitting him as if by surprise. That resulted in the TKO.

                    Demarco's TKO was weird, too. Linares had a really bad cut on the ridge of his nose. It happened early in the fight. Linares was winning easily on the score cards. Then his corner messed up with the cut, dropping the q-tip with vaseline. In the 12th round, the judge stopped the fight because the excess bleeding didn't allow Jorge to see the punches.

                    The other one was a fight in Mexico. (His name was Sergio Thomson.) This was the worst one because it looked like a corrupt call. Linares was buzzed; the ref told him to see the doctor, and the doctor, within one second (without looking at Linares), waived the fight off. You could see how confused Linares was. That's what happens when a non-Mexican fighter fights in Mexico.

                    Then there was the body blow by Lomachenko. But that wasn't his chin.

                    The point is that his chin isn't so bad as everyone thinks, and he does not cut up as easily as is claimed. His worst cut was on the top of his nose.
                    Good post, bro.

                    What that string of "weird" KOs add to is a fighter who needs to be comfortable, get set in their mind, and control the fight from the get. If they can't get their way, they are done. That's what Linares is. He's a hit or miss, not reliable fighter, kinda bum. I saw all those KOs too. I knew Linares long before his Japan days.

                    Loma not outclassing him wasn't cool.

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                    • joseph5620
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                      #80
                      I think Lopez loses by a clear decision. I don't think he'll get stopped.

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