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  • Boris Spassky
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    #61
    Originally posted by el_mas_chingon
    1. Juan Manuel Marquez
    2. Eric Morales
    3. Marco Antonio Barrera
    4. Mikey García
    5. Julio Cesar Chavez
    Mikey Garcia got dropped heavily in his 15th fight by a guy named Walter Estrada and only eked out a win by a single point on two of the judge's cards. Estrada was coming off a stoppage loss to Kevin Mitchell.

    And when Mikey fought Salido the previous year to Loma fighting Salido they both weighed about the same, Salido didn't have an 11 pound weight advantage on him. You think a 1-0 Mikey who nearly lost to a much lesser fighter than Salido in his 15th fight is beating an 11 pound heavier Salido in his 2nd fight??


    Back when Garcia was 14-0 in October of 2008, he faced left-hander Walter Estrada and, if you recall, he hit the deck against the seasoned
    veteran in winning a close, unanimous decision.

    "Yeah, he did; Walter Estrada from Colombia dropped him with a straight left hand and actually, when he hit him, a lot of people thought the fight was over," remembered Dunkin.

    "He hit him completely solid; it was amazing how Mikey got up. Didn’t even wobble, he jumped right up and moved around and had himself together. It sounded like the fight was over when he hit him. It just showed what a tremendous chin Mikey
    has."

    Goodman’s recollection of the fight was, "I believe it was the first fight that he’s fought as a pro against a southpaw. Got hit with a real good shot. I mean, walked straight into it and to Mikey’s credit, he got up. I believe he did win the fight; I don’t think there was any controversy. I thought he won fair and square. To me, he showed a good chin. He was real composed right after the knockdown. He didn’t get rattled or anything. It was some kind of adversity that he did face and he came through with flying colors, as far as I’m concerned."

    Part of the process in developing a fighter is seeing how they deal with rough waters. Garcia says he came out of that fight a better man.

    "I think I’ve learned from the Estrada fight and the previous fights enough to feel more mature," said Garcia, who’s record stands at 22-0 with 18 stoppages. "I went into that fight with like 14 fights or something and Estrada, he was like 36-6 [Editor’s note: Estrada actually was 34-6] at
    the time. So it was a bit of an advantage on the experience level. This time, I think I’ve grown a little more and had a few more fights were I’ve learned from the fight and I am a bit more mature and a little more experienced."

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    • daggum
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      #62
      Originally posted by BoxingIsGreat
      Davis-Santa Cruz (who is more accomplished than Lopez) is considered a complete mismatch at Santa's weight where he's a champion. Lopez-Monachenko is almost 50/50. That tells a story.
      the story is you dont understand boxing but thats more like a 50 part novel series based on all your posts. santa cruz is unranked at 130. lopez is ranked #2 at 135. left that part out didnt ya!

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      • BoxingIsGreat
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        #63
        Originally posted by daggum
        the story is you dont understand boxing but thats more like a 50 part novel series based on all your posts. santa cruz is unranked at 130. lopez is ranked #2 at 135. left that part out didnt ya!

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          #64
          Originally posted by BoxingIsGreat
          great counter argument! also your original argument isnt even true. lomachekno started as a -350 fav over lopez while tank started at -275 favorite over santa cruz so if we use your own argument loma must be considered a lot better since he's fighting the much better opponent and is still more heavily favored, but why should we use your own arguments right? they are silly after all

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            #65
            tank fighting a tiny unranked guy who has never fought anyone at 130 or 135(where the fight will happen) and he's only a -275 favorite. that does say a lot about what people expect from him. not much.

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              #66
              Originally posted by BoxingIsGreat
              Davis-Santa Cruz (who is more accomplished than Lopez) is considered a complete mismatch at Santa's weight where he's a champion. Lopez-Monachenko is almost 50/50. That tells a story.
              davis is only -275 over santa cruz. thats not considered a mismatch.

              loma is -350 against lopez. thats not almost 50-50 especially considering you think -275 is a complete mismatch...logically if -275 is a mismatch then -350 is an even bigger mismatch...i mean logically but i know we left logic behind long ago

              the story it tells is you need to do some more research because you make things up

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              • Cypocryphy
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                #67
                Originally posted by STREET CLEANER
                Lopez is naturally bigger, younger and explosive. He has a hell of a chance to win. Loma has a lot of talent but a good bigger guy can overcome a lot of that.
                I'm sure Linares would have loved to have heard this from you, seeing as how he fought Loma weighing the same as a welterweight. Then again, I believe he thought that he, a good, bigger guy, was going to overcome Loma, so it probably wouldn't have made a hell of a lot of difference.

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                • el_mas_chingon
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                  #68
                  Originally posted by Boris Spassky
                  Mikey Garcia got dropped heavily in his 15th fight by a guy named Walter Estrada and only eked out a win by a single point on two of the judge's cards. Estrada was coming off a stoppage loss to Kevin Mitchell.

                  And when Mikey fought Salido the previous year to Loma fighting Salido they both weighed about the same, Salido didn't have an 11 pound weight advantage on him. You think a 1-0 Mikey who nearly lost to a much lesser fighter than Salido in his 15th fight is beating an 11 pound heavier Salido in his 2nd fight??


                  Back when Garcia was 14-0 in October of 2008, he faced left-hander Walter Estrada and, if you recall, he hit the deck against the seasoned
                  veteran in winning a close, unanimous decision.

                  "Yeah, he did; Walter Estrada from Colombia dropped him with a straight left hand and actually, when he hit him, a lot of people thought the fight was over," remembered Dunkin.

                  "He hit him completely solid; it was amazing how Mikey got up. Didn’t even wobble, he jumped right up and moved around and had himself together. It sounded like the fight was over when he hit him. It just showed what a tremendous chin Mikey
                  has."

                  Goodman’s recollection of the fight was, "I believe it was the first fight that he’s fought as a pro against a southpaw. Got hit with a real good shot. I mean, walked straight into it and to Mikey’s credit, he got up. I believe he did win the fight; I don’t think there was any controversy. I thought he won fair and square. To me, he showed a good chin. He was real composed right after the knockdown. He didn’t get rattled or anything. It was some kind of adversity that he did face and he came through with flying colors, as far as I’m concerned."

                  Part of the process in developing a fighter is seeing how they deal with rough waters. Garcia says he came out of that fight a better man.

                  "I think I’ve learned from the Estrada fight and the previous fights enough to feel more mature," said Garcia, who’s record stands at 22-0 with 18 stoppages. "I went into that fight with like 14 fights or something and Estrada, he was like 36-6 [Editor’s note: Estrada actually was 34-6] at
                  the time. So it was a bit of an advantage on the experience level. This time, I think I’ve grown a little more and had a few more fights were I’ve learned from the fight and I am a bit more mature and a little more experienced."
                  So basically Mikey has a solid chin what you’re saying, and nothing changes Loma still lost to Salido and I was there to enjoy it live!

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                  • Lomadeaux
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                    #69
                    Originally posted by el_mas_chingon
                    Nah don’t think those greats would’ve lost their 2nd pro fight to a journeyman!
                    Lmfao.... you ****ing clowns never get old. Ever. We'll discuss this when Loma stops Lopez.

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                    • Lomadeaux
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                      #70
                      Originally posted by el_mas_chingon
                      So basically Mikey has a solid chin what you’re saying, and nothing changes Loma still lost to Salido and I was there to enjoy it live!
                      LMAO. What are you happy about it? LMAO. Dude fought for a world title in his second pro fight... let the dude be 25 pounds more than him and got fouled the entire night. And almost got him out of there in the 12th.

                      You little boys are hysterical.

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